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There Seems To Be A Bit Of A Nostalgic Theme Developing This Morning. Did Anyone Else Think Steptoe And Son Was The Blackest Of Black Comedies?
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I wouldn't have been surprised if the son had done-in his old dad and then hung himself with the reins of their horse in a final episode.
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I should also say it WAS brilliant writing (and acting). I remember the one where two prisoners (one Leonard Rossiter) escape from prison and break into the Steptoe house. There is the younger prisoner (Rossiter) an and older prisoner, and they are mirror images of the two Steptoes. The younger prisoner says the older prisoner is holding him back, the older...
11:22 Tue 18th Aug 2015
I should also say it WAS brilliant writing (and acting).
I remember the one where two prisoners (one Leonard Rossiter) escape from prison and break into the Steptoe house.
There is the younger prisoner (Rossiter) an and older prisoner, and they are mirror images of the two Steptoes.
The younger prisoner says the older prisoner is holding him back, the older prisoner says he needs the younger one to look after him.
The prisoners have to lend the Steptoes money for the electricity meter, then give the Steptoes cigarettes, even lend them matches to light them.
In the end the prisoners realise the Steptoes have it bad and decide they are better off in prison and give themselves up.
Brilliant writing.
I remember the one where two prisoners (one Leonard Rossiter) escape from prison and break into the Steptoe house.
There is the younger prisoner (Rossiter) an and older prisoner, and they are mirror images of the two Steptoes.
The younger prisoner says the older prisoner is holding him back, the older prisoner says he needs the younger one to look after him.
The prisoners have to lend the Steptoes money for the electricity meter, then give the Steptoes cigarettes, even lend them matches to light them.
In the end the prisoners realise the Steptoes have it bad and decide they are better off in prison and give themselves up.
Brilliant writing.
>>>I think it ran deeper than that VHG.
I think it was only later when the real "hate" problems set in.
Later in their lives they had to go to Australia to appear in a Steptoe stage show, but the older one was drinking more and forgetting his lines, and I think that is when the real hate set in.
I am sure for the first few series of Steptoe they got on fine like many actors do. I am sure they had their separate lives, but probably did not hate each other.
But things can turn bad in any relationship. Look how bad it got between Lennon and McCartney when the Beatles broke up, or Barlow and Williams when That That broke up, or Peter Cook and Dudley Moore when they broke up.
It happens.
I think it was only later when the real "hate" problems set in.
Later in their lives they had to go to Australia to appear in a Steptoe stage show, but the older one was drinking more and forgetting his lines, and I think that is when the real hate set in.
I am sure for the first few series of Steptoe they got on fine like many actors do. I am sure they had their separate lives, but probably did not hate each other.
But things can turn bad in any relationship. Look how bad it got between Lennon and McCartney when the Beatles broke up, or Barlow and Williams when That That broke up, or Peter Cook and Dudley Moore when they broke up.
It happens.
I think VHG has a valid point - it's not as simple as saying that the actors hated each other - the end.
It is apparent that they were totally different people - which is not at all uncommon in professional acting set-ups, or indeed in comedy. They would therefore be unlikely to be social friends, having nothing at all in common outside their work together.
Not many people realise that it was not until after Eric Morecambe's first heart attack that Ernie Wise came to his house - they had never been to each other's homes in all the years they worked together.
It is easy for the public to assume that people who spend time in a professional relationship in entertainment, mirror it off stage and away from the spotlight, and it is rarely true.
Professional artists arrive at personal compromises to enable work to be done, but they don't push those relationships past their workable limits, which often cease when the work is done for the day / night.
It's a shame that the 'imprisonment' of their roles that made them such a success on screen bled into the remainder of their personal and professional lives, and left them unable to break free of each other long past a time when a mutual split would have been the best thing for them, professionally and personally.
I do remember Wilfred Bramble being interviewed just after Corbett's death, and he was visibly distraught, so there must still have been come affection and connection left, even if it was buried under personal animosity stoked by irreconcileable differences and personal demons for both of them.
It is apparent that they were totally different people - which is not at all uncommon in professional acting set-ups, or indeed in comedy. They would therefore be unlikely to be social friends, having nothing at all in common outside their work together.
Not many people realise that it was not until after Eric Morecambe's first heart attack that Ernie Wise came to his house - they had never been to each other's homes in all the years they worked together.
It is easy for the public to assume that people who spend time in a professional relationship in entertainment, mirror it off stage and away from the spotlight, and it is rarely true.
Professional artists arrive at personal compromises to enable work to be done, but they don't push those relationships past their workable limits, which often cease when the work is done for the day / night.
It's a shame that the 'imprisonment' of their roles that made them such a success on screen bled into the remainder of their personal and professional lives, and left them unable to break free of each other long past a time when a mutual split would have been the best thing for them, professionally and personally.
I do remember Wilfred Bramble being interviewed just after Corbett's death, and he was visibly distraught, so there must still have been come affection and connection left, even if it was buried under personal animosity stoked by irreconcileable differences and personal demons for both of them.
Baths - //as a contrast,.I love that Frank Skinner and David Baddiel actually shared a flat/house together when they presented Fantasy Football :) //
Indeed they did.
Frank (or Chris as he is off-stage) met DB when the former was a starting-out comedian, and DB was established and successful. Their friendship is a pure 'opposites attract' and their shared sense of humour meant that they shared a flat for five years together.
Indeed they did.
Frank (or Chris as he is off-stage) met DB when the former was a starting-out comedian, and DB was established and successful. Their friendship is a pure 'opposites attract' and their shared sense of humour meant that they shared a flat for five years together.
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