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I would like to know if there are any links to, perhaps, newspaper articles which explore what events are fact or fiction in this series. Conversations obviously won't be word for word and I am old enough to remember the events and these are often corroborated - by us being shown the newspapers of the day.
But I heard someone on radio the other day questioning the accuracy of quite significant things - in particular the episode which dealt with the aftermath of Philip's misbehaviour at Gordon stone.
I did not think I would enjoy this programme as I have lived through it but I do think it is
very good - I'm just niggled by what is true or not.
But I heard someone on radio the other day questioning the accuracy of quite significant things - in particular the episode which dealt with the aftermath of Philip's misbehaviour at Gordon stone.
I did not think I would enjoy this programme as I have lived through it but I do think it is
very good - I'm just niggled by what is true or not.
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there is quite a lot on wiki and the public domain
it is dray-mer tho - Series 1 - there was alot of contemporary comment that churchill was gaga during his second ministry - and play with duckies in the bath.
Their view of Eden is defensible - he did conspire with the French and Israelis
Anthony the Nutter Nuttall DID tell Eden it wasnt lawful to invade Egypt ( he was an arabist ) and DID resign then got chucked out by his constituency party as he felt he couldnt tell them what had gone on. He wrote a book on Lawrence that I got and gave a fren for Christmas and was ruined but felt OK about it ( wiki)
Eden gall bladder was screwed up by the surgeon and Efen was suffereing from hallucinations and fever DURING the crisis ( charcot's ascending biliary triad ) which defintiely took the edge off his planning abilities
Mac ('inveterate liar' according to the wife of a cabinet colleague) WAS aware that Profumo was lying ( MI5) when he congratulated Profumo on a good speech
Dorothy Macmillam ( not known then ) was cavorting with Bob Boothby who like men as well - Sarah M was Boothby;s and S was famously unhappy with her step father (M)
Mac DID go to the stage show of Beyond the Fringe
and was called out
( now regretted by the players)
Mac DID have trouble with his prostate ( lost his job over it) - the british public thought that anyone who needed a prostatectomy was a satyr ( ironic huh ?)
it is dray-mer tho - Series 1 - there was alot of contemporary comment that churchill was gaga during his second ministry - and play with duckies in the bath.
Their view of Eden is defensible - he did conspire with the French and Israelis
Anthony the Nutter Nuttall DID tell Eden it wasnt lawful to invade Egypt ( he was an arabist ) and DID resign then got chucked out by his constituency party as he felt he couldnt tell them what had gone on. He wrote a book on Lawrence that I got and gave a fren for Christmas and was ruined but felt OK about it ( wiki)
Eden gall bladder was screwed up by the surgeon and Efen was suffereing from hallucinations and fever DURING the crisis ( charcot's ascending biliary triad ) which defintiely took the edge off his planning abilities
Mac ('inveterate liar' according to the wife of a cabinet colleague) WAS aware that Profumo was lying ( MI5) when he congratulated Profumo on a good speech
Dorothy Macmillam ( not known then ) was cavorting with Bob Boothby who like men as well - Sarah M was Boothby;s and S was famously unhappy with her step father (M)
Mac DID go to the stage show of Beyond the Fringe
and was called out
( now regretted by the players)
Mac DID have trouble with his prostate ( lost his job over it) - the british public thought that anyone who needed a prostatectomy was a satyr ( ironic huh ?)
PP.
"Eden gall bladder was screwed up by the surgeon and Efen was suffereing from hallucinations and fever DURING the crisis ( charcot's ascending biliary triad ) which defintiely took the edge off his planning abilities "
Quite correct.....Bart's surgeon tied of his common bile duct instead of his cystic duct and he had to go to the U.S to have it unpicked and redone.
You are correct in that he had bouts of ascending cholangitis.
"Eden gall bladder was screwed up by the surgeon and Efen was suffereing from hallucinations and fever DURING the crisis ( charcot's ascending biliary triad ) which defintiely took the edge off his planning abilities "
Quite correct.....Bart's surgeon tied of his common bile duct instead of his cystic duct and he had to go to the U.S to have it unpicked and redone.
You are correct in that he had bouts of ascending cholangitis.
Duke of Edinburgh
the bit about the house of Mountbatten is true
MountB got Charles on his side on that one
Charles and Gordounsoun was broadly true - I was contemporary with boys who had gone to G and Charles had an awful time - was called Dumbo and did sell his signature at 10/- a pop.
They all said it was obvious C should NOT be at G
The bit about G and Philip was OK
his sisters DID marry SS officers
his mother was a mad nun and did go around as portrayed
Cecile was the favourite daughter
P started off school in Germany and did do Hitler salutes
I thought P followed Kurt Hahn from Germany when he was chucked out (Jew) to Scotland. The school WASN'T viable for a long time and Hahn just wanted to show it could be done (What?????)
The gate building and "I need help" - I thought was a dramatic trope
Being rescued by the detective (C) I thought was also dramatised.
No one knew P was gonna make it before 1948
so I am not sure if there are any contemporary reports
the bit about the house of Mountbatten is true
MountB got Charles on his side on that one
Charles and Gordounsoun was broadly true - I was contemporary with boys who had gone to G and Charles had an awful time - was called Dumbo and did sell his signature at 10/- a pop.
They all said it was obvious C should NOT be at G
The bit about G and Philip was OK
his sisters DID marry SS officers
his mother was a mad nun and did go around as portrayed
Cecile was the favourite daughter
P started off school in Germany and did do Hitler salutes
I thought P followed Kurt Hahn from Germany when he was chucked out (Jew) to Scotland. The school WASN'T viable for a long time and Hahn just wanted to show it could be done (What?????)
The gate building and "I need help" - I thought was a dramatic trope
Being rescued by the detective (C) I thought was also dramatised.
No one knew P was gonna make it before 1948
so I am not sure if there are any contemporary reports
Did they have Boothby referring to the Kray twins in the House of Lords ? He was told previously NOT to do and went ahead
Losing LOTS of brownie points - and commented
"you dont understand I HAD to do it"
his later boyfriend was finished off by a rogue dental anaesthetist - who was also a cat burglar and the word on the street (1982) was that he used to go to bed with the house owner and then later come back and burgle him. I cant remember if the doctor was convicted of negligent manslaughter. - That WASN'T in series 2 - but the FAMOUS photo - Boothby Krays and a few er hangers on / rent boys is
Losing LOTS of brownie points - and commented
"you dont understand I HAD to do it"
his later boyfriend was finished off by a rogue dental anaesthetist - who was also a cat burglar and the word on the street (1982) was that he used to go to bed with the house owner and then later come back and burgle him. I cant remember if the doctor was convicted of negligent manslaughter. - That WASN'T in series 2 - but the FAMOUS photo - Boothby Krays and a few er hangers on / rent boys is
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