Should We Be Surprised That Corbyn Encouraged Labour Mps Not To Make Hamas A Proscribed Group?

[Deskdiary]

Corbyn's support of the IRA is well known, and in the past he has called Hamas and Hezbollah friends, so should we be surprised he doesn't want this misogynist, homophobic, terrorist organisation who has a stated aim of killing all jews, made a proscribed group?

He states he wants them to go down a democratic route, but you cannot reason with these people any more than we can reason with ISIS.

(I heard this on the news last night and the only link I can find is from The Jewish Chronicle, so if anybody can find a better link I'd appreciate it, as I suspect posting a link from the JC will result in certain people (they know who they are) dismissing it out of hand).

https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/labour-party-tells-mps-reject-call-to-ban-hezbollah-terrorist-group-1.457381

[dannyk13]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-5313365/Ministers-reject-calls-proscribe-Hezbollah-political-wing-terrorist-group.html

[Quizmonster]

According to the Mail link provided above, "The Government has resisted calls from a number of its own senior backbenchers to recognise the political wing of Hezbollah as a terrorist organisation."
The site goes on to refer to “ministers” doing precisely the same thing.
The Laour party is not in government and it has no ministers, so why are they and their leader, Mr Corbyn, "in the frame" for being apparently in total agreement?

[Deskdiary]

I'm disappointed in the Government, but Corbyn has form for being a sympathiser, hence my question about whether we should be surprised.

[ichkeria]

Not only that, but the motion was actually brought by a Labour MP (!) (probably not a Corbynite admittedly)
Labour former minister Joan Ryan, who proposed the motion, told the Commons that “there is no distinction” between wings.

Fellow Labour MP John Woodcock (Barrow and Furness) added: “Does she not agree that it should make both the Government frontbench and our opposition frontbench deeply uneasy that they are currently effectively in an alliance together on refusing to recognise this bogus distinction between the so-called military wing and the rest?”

Presumably Julian Assange would not agree either, as he once did a cringingly toadyish TV "interview" with Hezbollah's leader a while back.

[Quizmonster]

It seems, Deskdiary, that the Tory government are "sympathisers" too then, doesn't it? You should, in fairness, have condemned them as well, surely.

[youngmafbog]

// but you cannot reason with these people //

An old one but: What's the difference between a feminist and a terrorist? A: You can reason with a terrorist.

[Khandro]

Corbyn's anti-Semitic Labour party is being as usual mealy-mouthed. Any idea that a peaceful solution to the demands of these Palestinian terrorist organisations is in any way possible is completely fatuous. How can you reason with groups dedicated to wiping Israel and its population off the face of the earth?

[Kromovaracun]

It's not especially surprising, he's clearly sympathetic to their cause and is not all that concerned about their methods.

Why British politicians seem to be obsessed with self-importantly pontificating about the Israel issue (on either side) utterly confuses me.

[dannyk13]

Kromo, perhaps because Israel is one of our allies.

[ichkeria]

The charge that the Labour Party is institutionally anti Semitic is ludicrous and needs to be challenged. It would be curious for an anti Semitic party to have a Jew as the head of its main ginger group. There are certainly pontificating anti zionists, but then you get that in all parties. And labour probably has more than its fair share. There are also no doubt people who are genuinely anti Semitic also.

[ToraToraTora]

I'm not surprised, Labour love their Terrorist friends.

[Kromovaracun]

//Kromo, perhaps because Israel is one of our allies//

What does this actually mean on the ground? We are irrelevant.

[dannyk13]

Kromo, does the 'we' include yourself.If so then I am inclined to agree.

[Gromit]

Deskdiary,
You’ve rather shot yourself in the foot with this thread. Labour are not in power and have nothing to do with whether the UK Government bans Hezbollah’ political wing.
As it turns out, Mrs May’s Conservative’s have thrown out the ban (in effect supporting Hezbollah’s political wing is not a proscribed terrorist organisation).

All of which makes this thread look particularly daft. Blaming Corbyn for something he has no influence on and then when told the Conservatives are the real ‘culprits’, the best you can condemn them with is ‘disappointing’.

The agenda here is so transparent and fake it is laughable.

[Deskdiary]

Cornyn has no influence over his MPs? Really?

My question was quite clear.

Happy to explain it if you like.