No Deal Implications For Europe?

[Thursday]

What are the implications of a possible No Deal from the European point of view?

[Gromit]

The rest of the EU exports £340billion of goods to the UK, which would be threatened. Losing that amount of trade would serverely affect several countries economies.

[Old_Geezer]

Of course, no deal doesn't have to mean no trade.

[weecalf]

Why a deal ? leave tomorrow start on Monday trade with countries that want our produce and who’s produce we want ...Next question

[naomi24]

//Losing that amount of trade would serverely affect several countries economies. //

Which begs the question, 'Why is the EU being so obstructive?" No deal and they're shooting themselves in the foot - but we always knew that.

[Gromit]

// Why is the EU being so obstructive? //

You seem to be assuming it is the EU side being obstructive. The Conservative Party cannot agree amongst itself what form of Brexit ot wants. If one side does not know what it wants, it is difficult to make agreements with it.

[naomi24]

I agree Jordy. Those who voted 'Leave' have no one representing them in these negotiations.

[naomi24]

Gromit, I think the EU is being obstructive... and why wouldn't they be obstructive? They don't want to lose our money.

[dannyk13]

Gromit, //You seem to be assuming it is the EU side being obstructive//
M.Barnier only has one word in his vocabulary i.e "Non"

[Old_Geezer]

Plus there are possible non-trade issues such as losing our input to databases, projects, etc. because they insist on being obstructive and petulant about such things. It's "their" database/project we've all contributed to, if we are opting out the group they're taking their ball away so we can't play any more, even though it disadvantages all.

[Gromit]

This chimes with your misplaced pessimism that we will never leave.
We are leaving on 29th March 2019. If we leave without any arrangements for future trade, future transport, future air travel, future customs etc, then trading will ve difficult. We should make proper arrangements before we leave to minimise any adverse impacts that being a non EU member throws up.

[The_Rim_Greaper]

"Which begs the question, 'Why is the EU being so obstructive?"

1: they want to punish us
2: they want to set an example to stop all the others that will soon want out.
3: when oberleutnant barnier was announced as the lead eussr "negotiatior" wirds like tough etc were used to describe him, so the muppet is trying to live up to his name
4: they never envisaged in their wildest dreams being rumbled as to their dictatorial methods and aims and any country wanting out in order to re-claim their country, so they have no process in place

[Gromit]

Damn.
The EU appointed a tough negotiator. Why didn’t we think of that.

[Old_Geezer]

We have stated what we want.

A fair trade deal, no demanding of exit fees,and a genuine exit where the EU doesn't dictate with rules/laws that take priority, including demanding free movement of people (I'd suggest finance too), an open border in Ireland, the right to strike our own deals everywhere in the world, plus continued involvement in things such as security data exchanges and mutually beneficial projects. Well for starters.

Meanwhile we see no evidence of the EU shifting from their "punishment" standpoint. And continual rejection of all. Only after May suggests an unacceptable option (which is also rejected) and the 'no deal' starts being the obvious end point they're aiming fir, do they come up with a "stay in the EU in all but name and we'll give you a concession re people movement" suggestion.

I know this is off the OP question but it is important we all realise that it is the EU being obstructive. The evidence presented makes it more than mere assumption.

[Old_Geezer]

Negotiator ? What negotiator ? Negotiators negotiate, not obstruct.

[The_Rim_Greaper]

"The EU appointed a tough negotiator. Why didn’t we think of that."

that was what they claimed...that was the one of the first ways they tried to scare and threaten us..he is anything but as has been proved..and as OG says he is no negotiator

[Gromit]

// an open border in Ireland, //

I thought Brexit was supposed to be about taking back control of our own borders?

[Gromit]

Rim Greaper,
You need to get your story straight. You are contradicting yourself.

// when oberleutnant barnier was announced as the lead eussr "negotiatior” words like tough etc were used to describe him, so the muppet is trying to live up to his name //

// that was the one of the first ways they tried to scare and threaten us..he is anything but he is no negotiator //

[naomi24]

Gromit, I see no contradiction there. Rim Greaper describes him as a muppet in the first instance and ‘no negotiator’ in the second.