ChatterBank3 mins ago
Guaranteed No Deal?
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"This is a sanitised briefing. It is rated as "high level of confidence" and supported by OSINT, meaning it comes from multiple, reliable sources and is supported by open source information.
Numerous sources have confirmed the British government is deliberately aiming for a no deal Brexit outcome in order to take advantage of extended powers available to them under the scenario - including civil contingencies and so-called Henry VIII.
The Chequers plan is a ploy designed to engage the EU in distraction from the desired British outcome and create a false narrative at home in the UK that the EU are responsible.
Sources claim emergency legislation is being prepared for January next year (2019) when the Withdrawal Act no deal deadlines pass - this would be 29/01 and the civil contingencies secretariat have been convened as per leaked Hammond notes recently, adding credibility.
On Ireland: The British government hopes the EU will be forced to move first and install a hard border in Ireland in order to avoid blame itself for a situation it has created. Further sources claim the data harvested during Repeal 8th will be used in some "unity" campaigns.
The British government has progressed trade talks with the US to the point of potential emergency supply, moving substantially beyond informal discussions - though the Trump administration should not be taken at its word, a degree of reliance on this has been factored in UK side.
The government intends to create a tax haven on the EU's doorstep to exploit financial service deregulation. This speaks for itself.
The British government aims to prevent France and other EU countries from properly preparing for no deal by continuing to falsely engage in the negotiations in bad faith, keeping the EU27 from moving from early stage plans to contingency measures as long as possible.
The British government hopes this will create a ripple effect of impact so it can later pursue a "Europe in chaos" narrative of disinformation and exploit the situation. In short hoping to spread the load of no deal impact, particularly into France due to geographical impact.
The British government hopes this collateral damage will add to planned disruption around the EU election processes next spring and they will use dissident relationships to further this - likely to include Orban.
The British are aware that contingency planning in France has not yet reached operational unit level even in the GIGN because the general French presumption is that the British government is genuinely engaged in good faith, which they are not."
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Numerous sources have confirmed the British government is deliberately aiming for a no deal Brexit outcome in order to take advantage of extended powers available to them under the scenario - including civil contingencies and so-called Henry VIII.
The Chequers plan is a ploy designed to engage the EU in distraction from the desired British outcome and create a false narrative at home in the UK that the EU are responsible.
Sources claim emergency legislation is being prepared for January next year (2019) when the Withdrawal Act no deal deadlines pass - this would be 29/01 and the civil contingencies secretariat have been convened as per leaked Hammond notes recently, adding credibility.
On Ireland: The British government hopes the EU will be forced to move first and install a hard border in Ireland in order to avoid blame itself for a situation it has created. Further sources claim the data harvested during Repeal 8th will be used in some "unity" campaigns.
The British government has progressed trade talks with the US to the point of potential emergency supply, moving substantially beyond informal discussions - though the Trump administration should not be taken at its word, a degree of reliance on this has been factored in UK side.
The government intends to create a tax haven on the EU's doorstep to exploit financial service deregulation. This speaks for itself.
The British government aims to prevent France and other EU countries from properly preparing for no deal by continuing to falsely engage in the negotiations in bad faith, keeping the EU27 from moving from early stage plans to contingency measures as long as possible.
The British government hopes this will create a ripple effect of impact so it can later pursue a "Europe in chaos" narrative of disinformation and exploit the situation. In short hoping to spread the load of no deal impact, particularly into France due to geographical impact.
The British government hopes this collateral damage will add to planned disruption around the EU election processes next spring and they will use dissident relationships to further this - likely to include Orban.
The British are aware that contingency planning in France has not yet reached operational unit level even in the GIGN because the general French presumption is that the British government is genuinely engaged in good faith, which they are not."
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It's actually quite reassuring to know there's a solid conspiracy going in the background, and that it's not just the chaotic shambles they'd obviously like us to think it is.
11:43 Mon 15th Oct 2018
JJ Patrick appears credible, but I have not scrutinised him.
His work on the Hybrid War (or Alt War) conducted by Russia on the west was well ahead of its time, and appears more accurate with age.
A long read from him here.
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His work on the Hybrid War (or Alt War) conducted by Russia on the west was well ahead of its time, and appears more accurate with age.
A long read from him here.
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The EU has been planning for a no deal a lot longer than the UK government so stalling isn’t an issue.
The Uk government has always maintained they won’t put up a hard border so any the EU or Eire put up will not be the fault or making of the UK government.
The impact of Brexit will be felt all over the EU in some form or another so there is actually no need to try to make it worse.
Good on the government for attempting to make the UK a better place for business. And good on the government for getting talks of trade with other countries off to a flying start.
Oh my.
The EU has been planning for a no deal a lot longer than the UK government so stalling isn’t an issue.
The Uk government has always maintained they won’t put up a hard border so any the EU or Eire put up will not be the fault or making of the UK government.
The impact of Brexit will be felt all over the EU in some form or another so there is actually no need to try to make it worse.
Good on the government for attempting to make the UK a better place for business. And good on the government for getting talks of trade with other countries off to a flying start.
Oh my.
"On Ireland: The British government hopes the EU will be forced to move first and install a hard border in Ireland..."
Good luck to them with that. Ireland has no intention whatsoever of installing a hard border. The EU has no resources under its control to do so and as far as I can make out has no authority to do so anyway. During this entire charade concerning the Irish border nobody (except me) has asked how a hard border will be installed and policed and who is going to do it. Nobody has suggested how freight and people will be intercepted when crossing a 300m long border with dozens if not hundreds of crossing points. Nobody has said what will happen to lorries attempting to cross that border on 31st March next year should no "deal" be agreed. I'd be interested to learn what proposals there are.
Good luck to them with that. Ireland has no intention whatsoever of installing a hard border. The EU has no resources under its control to do so and as far as I can make out has no authority to do so anyway. During this entire charade concerning the Irish border nobody (except me) has asked how a hard border will be installed and policed and who is going to do it. Nobody has suggested how freight and people will be intercepted when crossing a 300m long border with dozens if not hundreds of crossing points. Nobody has said what will happen to lorries attempting to cross that border on 31st March next year should no "deal" be agreed. I'd be interested to learn what proposals there are.
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