Ronnie O'sulivan's Novel.

[andy-hughes]

I have just started reading Ronnie O'Sullivan's novel Framed - set in Soho's gangland and around a snooker club - fair enough, write what you know.

But Ronnie needs to check his memory, or get a better copy editor for his next book - his main character refers to a time when he and his younger brother pretended to be Paul Newman in The Great Escape.

Now I am no film buff by any stretch of the imagination, but I do know that Paul Newman wasn't in The Great Escape!!

Tut tut Ronnie, must do better!

[DeeLicious]

Snooker-mad mate of mine has read this and doesn't remember a reference to The Great Escape, so he'd like to know what page the error is on Andy Hughes please....assuming you have it in book form and not Kindle (if that's different)

[johnny.5]

small point of order .
you are allowed to pretend to be who you want to be and when you want to be for example I could pretend I was Joan of arc listening to the Smiths on my walkman when the earphones start to melt

[mushroom25]

maybe snooker players should stick to what they're good at - as evidence, I offer this from 1982....

(what on earth was Mike Sammes thinking???)

[Mamyalynne]

Thank you for explaining the links removal Andy, yes some scrolling did reveal a rude word.

Similar has happened in song videos posted, perhaps a warning prior would have sufficed?

For anyone wanting to view the Google Books result.

Put in the search on Google.

Framed Ronnie O'Sullivan Paul Newman great escape

[naomi24]

I googled and found this among the final few paragraphs of chapter 3.

/It was a game Frankie and Jack had used together as kids, pretending they were in The Great Escape, each of them squabbling over who’d get to be Paul Newman every time. //

I don't see the problem. It's not difficult.

[Ellipsis]

Wow, perhaps if you are going to draw attention to a book (without even asking a question ...) then you should make sure it doesn't include any bad language, andy-hughes. Some child may have spent their pocket money on that book and seen the bad word, and whose fault would that be?

[thesshhh]

I just looked at a copy in my local bookshop and it correctly states Steve McQueen. So Andy Hughes you must have a rare copy with a mistake in it. May be worth a bit on eBay!

[andy-hughes]

Obviously corrected in the re-print. Thanks for that info.

[naomi24]

Perhaps ah has an old copy. Later prints may have been corrected. It happens. The copy I found by googling definitely says Paul Newman.

[andy-hughes]

Ellipsis - // Wow, perhaps if you are going to draw attention to a book (without even asking a question ...) then you should make sure it doesn't include any bad language, andy-hughes. Some child may have spent their pocket money on that book and seen the bad word, and whose fault would that be? //

Any child young enough to be receiving pocket money is unlikely to spend it on a novel like this, and if they did, it would be the responsibility of their parents to oversee what they read - obviously.

[andy-hughes]

johnny5 - // small point of order .
you are allowed to pretend to be who you want to be and when you want to be for example I could pretend I was Joan of arc listening to the Smiths on my walkman when the earphones start to melt //

Of course, that is the joy of fiction, but if, as part of your fiction. you are going to touch on real facts, then it is your responsibility as an author to ensure that your facts to which you refer within your fiction, are accurate.

[-Talbot-]

andy-hughes
It's more likely that the link was removed because of the strong language on the page copied to show the error - and that contravenes Site Rules.




Yes, that more like the reason why the Mod removed the offending posts.

[andy-hughes]

Talbot - // Yes, that more like the reason why the Mod removed the offending posts. //

Your support for appropriate moderation is very much appreciated.

[Ellipsis]

> Any child young enough to be receiving pocket money is unlikely to spend it on a novel like this, and if they did, it would be the responsibility of their parents to oversee what they read - obviously.

As would their reading of the AnswerBank and the sites it links to - obviously.

> Your support for appropriate moderation is very much appreciated.

Appropriate? A link answering a question about a book that that you drew attention to.

I am not sure which site rule you are claiming was infringed, but I cannot believe that moderators check every link to see whether they contain a swearword. I can only assume it was this one ...

> Do not post any material that is defamatory, obscene, unlawful, threatening, in breach of copyright or otherwise objectionable. Links to objectionable websites on these grounds are also prohibited. Usernames should not be offensive or obscene.

... but I take "obscene" in that context to be e.g. pornographic pictures, text or videos. Not a swearword! The mods are really going to have their work cut out if they have to read every word, every comment, listen to every video, etc etc to make sure that nobody is going to be offended by following a link and reading to the bottom of the page. I really have no idea why you thought the removal of a helpful link answering an innocent question was appropriate.

[andy-hughes]

Ellipsis - // I am not sure which site rule you are claiming was infringed, but I cannot believe that moderators check every link to see whether they contain a swearword. I can only assume it was this one ... //

Then I think your assumption is wrong - I think the Moderators do check as many posts and links as they are able - that is why they agree to be Moderators.


// ... but I take "obscene" in that context to be e.g. pornographic pictures, text or videos. Not a swearword! /

And that is your prerogative - and it is the Moderators' prerogative to delete posts they consider to transgress Site Rules.

[Ellipsis]

OK. Perhaps you better delete Mamya's post too, since it tells the reader how to find exactly the same page that I linked to, demonstrating the complete futility of this discussion.

[andy-hughes]

Ellipsis - // OK. Perhaps you better delete Mamya's post too, since it tells the reader how to find exactly the same page that I linked to, demonstrating the complete futility of this discussion. //

I am not willing to continue side-tracking this thread with a side-discussion with you on moderation.

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