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I An Not A Rapist - Possible Spoilers
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Did anybody see this programme which was shown one night this week. I've only just watched it on catchup.
Very distressing. The girls who make these false claims should be prosecuted and definitely named & shamed. It is disgraceful that these girls get away with ruining lives.
Very distressing. The girls who make these false claims should be prosecuted and definitely named & shamed. It is disgraceful that these girls get away with ruining lives.
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In a lot of ways rape is subjective. One party can truly believe they have been raped, the other equally believe they have had consensual sex.
Being found not guilty in court does not automatically mean the accuser was lying, only that the jury did not believe beyond reasonable doubt.
The scenario could arise where the jury found the accuser not guilty of perjury because the same standards have to be applied. That would be even more traumatic for the person found not guilty of rape, casting doubt on his innocence in the minds of many people.
If the person who reported rape retracted the statement before trial she could still be found not guilty of perjury. She could claim she retracted and said she was lying because she could not face the trauma of trial, she was frightened, pressured by her family, believed the police were treating her badly - any number of reasons.
Only the people who were there when it happened know the truth and even then everyone could believe their version of events.
Rape is a heinous crime that should be severely punished. Falsely claiming rape is equally heinous and should be treated equally as severely.
Proving both offences is not so clear cut.
I can well understand why so many men and women who report rape to the police retract their statements. I can think of fewer things more traumatic than giving evidence in court months or years after the trauma of being raped. It must be very tempting to 'just make it all stop'.
Equally it must be a living hell to be falsely accused of rape especially if everything else in the statement is true. It can be proved he was there, sex happened.
Being found not guilty in court does not automatically mean the accuser was lying, only that the jury did not believe beyond reasonable doubt.
The scenario could arise where the jury found the accuser not guilty of perjury because the same standards have to be applied. That would be even more traumatic for the person found not guilty of rape, casting doubt on his innocence in the minds of many people.
If the person who reported rape retracted the statement before trial she could still be found not guilty of perjury. She could claim she retracted and said she was lying because she could not face the trauma of trial, she was frightened, pressured by her family, believed the police were treating her badly - any number of reasons.
Only the people who were there when it happened know the truth and even then everyone could believe their version of events.
Rape is a heinous crime that should be severely punished. Falsely claiming rape is equally heinous and should be treated equally as severely.
Proving both offences is not so clear cut.
I can well understand why so many men and women who report rape to the police retract their statements. I can think of fewer things more traumatic than giving evidence in court months or years after the trauma of being raped. It must be very tempting to 'just make it all stop'.
Equally it must be a living hell to be falsely accused of rape especially if everything else in the statement is true. It can be proved he was there, sex happened.
in a similar vein, the programme on the Bristol so-called murderer, Christopher Jefferies, showed up the disgrace of the claims and the trial by media - the press paid accordingly but it left him heavily scarred. One could also argue that the girls hounding Prince Andrew are just gold-diggers....though Andrew has been a berk, numpty, whatever descriptor you use, unless he had sex with them in the US Virgin Islands (sic) or Florida then he hasn't committed a crime.
spoiler
no yes watch!
they had got phone honky again - 2017 - the fella who was acquitted when they read HER phone ( "I like it really") - and that was after the trial started !
The prosecuting barrister - white hair and bright red glasses looks like a poof - came out on the defence side
wow ! - - - watch !
and they seemed have got a welsh lad who was identified as obviously not guilty and SEEM to have followed him prospectively ( as happens ) and not with reconstructions
and ....
what do they do now? pass around an apple cart and say "phones please" - and EVEN the dispatching sergeant says "switch your bodycams on IN the car please so we get it all ....."
so it really IS true to say that things have changed ( for the good) and look how quickly !
no yes watch!
they had got phone honky again - 2017 - the fella who was acquitted when they read HER phone ( "I like it really") - and that was after the trial started !
The prosecuting barrister - white hair and bright red glasses looks like a poof - came out on the defence side
wow ! - - - watch !
and they seemed have got a welsh lad who was identified as obviously not guilty and SEEM to have followed him prospectively ( as happens ) and not with reconstructions
and ....
what do they do now? pass around an apple cart and say "phones please" - and EVEN the dispatching sergeant says "switch your bodycams on IN the car please so we get it all ....."
so it really IS true to say that things have changed ( for the good) and look how quickly !
// Why the delay??? What on earth is the hold up??//
there a huge police electronic thingey back log - one of two years
but one of the cases - they hadnt bothered.
but the police officer said - there isnt anything
but there was
and also it is covered - what app - when you delete it goes into a delete box and not really deleted as in destroyed and not there
and if it is in the delete box - they will plead intention to deceive
there a huge police electronic thingey back log - one of two years
but one of the cases - they hadnt bothered.
but the police officer said - there isnt anything
but there was
and also it is covered - what app - when you delete it goes into a delete box and not really deleted as in destroyed and not there
and if it is in the delete box - they will plead intention to deceive
Dave hearks !
send good luck messages
been almost there - - - half there
allegations of child molesting
My case: the completely taken in and believing policeman looked startled when I said - "we have been in court already over that and the judge said there as no case to answer. " [gast slowly but completely flabbered as the PC realised - - my accuser had not been ...... truthing].
No -I am afraid my accuser had "forgotten" that when she had a second go (better and more tearful a scream even, stifled sobs) and I said ' res judicata'
the judge - solomon - took about 5 s to decide asking for rent arrears was NOT child molesting. - she um didnt learn you know. I was not allowed cross examine as the judge had gleaned my accuser had been in three places at the same time. - her explanations of that were ingenious but - - - unconvincing
send good luck messages
been almost there - - - half there
allegations of child molesting
My case: the completely taken in and believing policeman looked startled when I said - "we have been in court already over that and the judge said there as no case to answer. " [gast slowly but completely flabbered as the PC realised - - my accuser had not been ...... truthing].
No -I am afraid my accuser had "forgotten" that when she had a second go (better and more tearful a scream even, stifled sobs) and I said ' res judicata'
the judge - solomon - took about 5 s to decide asking for rent arrears was NOT child molesting. - she um didnt learn you know. I was not allowed cross examine as the judge had gleaned my accuser had been in three places at the same time. - her explanations of that were ingenious but - - - unconvincing
I believe rape/assault accusations are almost an occupational hazard for landlords.
Christopher Jeffries has been mentioned. Remember his dissatisfied tenants crawling out of the woodwork with all those lurid tales about him.
Personally, I didn't believe them for a moment. Getting evicted can have a negative effect on people. + newspapers pay more for dirt.
Christopher Jeffries has been mentioned. Remember his dissatisfied tenants crawling out of the woodwork with all those lurid tales about him.
Personally, I didn't believe them for a moment. Getting evicted can have a negative effect on people. + newspapers pay more for dirt.
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