Celeb -BB

[Drisgirl]

MB is completely nuts IMO and I would be seriously worried about being there with him.I personally think this has gone past entertainment - he needs help and I firmly believe the other contestants are at risk

I i think Endemol should get him out quick - its not even humorous.

Watch this space!

What do you think?

[bulbousdome]

Well Henneth & Maximo,

You are correct MB is not a mass murderer..yet! after all most people believed Ian Huntley was a mild mannered janitor, Peter Sutcliffe was an innocent truck driver in the wrong place at the wrong time, Hitler was only trying to better the life of the German people and Christie was a really nice landlord, so read into this what you like. Also what is all this bulls**t about MB having a nervous breakdown, most of the posts on here are condemned by the likes of Yo-Ko, Henneth, Maximo etc when anyone mentions MB's guilt, but I would like to know where their hard and fast evidence is about MB's breakdown? It sounds like a shroud that MB uses to take the heat off himself and prevent him having to answer possible incriminating questions.

[bulbousdome]

The incident of the Queens picture being gouged by MB just goes to show what an unstable character he is. I am far from having Victorian attitudes but still believe this is a mild form of treason and what he is actually doing is sticking his finger up to ALL the british people who accept the monarchy. We have always been ruled by the Royal family whether we like it or not and those of us who abide by this should feel ashamed of his actions.

[sunflower68]

I agree bulbousdome, MB does like to take the attention off himself by behaving foolishly and that is bizarre. I just don't get why on earth he is being put in the same bracket as child killers. No wonder he is going a little insane. He has had to put up with this kind of thing for years and I'm surprised he's still standing let alone planning his tv comeback. By the way the Queen's picture has cameras in the eyes. They all seem to know this and it was probably why he was mucking about with them.

[sunflower68]

bulbousdome our threads crossed and I'd like to add that I don't agree on the treason thing. I abide by the rules of the land too, and the 'gouging' did not faze me. But then I am anti royal.

[bulbousdome]

Sunflower,

I am not saying he should be classified in the same category as child killers or the like but his antics show him to be somewhat unhinged and he has been involved in a suspicious death. As for the camera in the eyes, he possibly could have restrained his aggressive behaviour by placing sticky tape over them or covering the painting up all together. For arguments sake if I had a portrait of my grandmother on the wall and someone I knew starting gouging at the eyes whether there were cameras in them or not I certainly would not want the person in the same room as my grandmother when she visited...Would anyone?

He knew there where cameras all over the BB house, if he doesn't like the idea of this invasion of privacy then why go on the show?

[bulbousdome]

Sunflower being anti royal does not mean you are bad I too am anti royal but I do abide by the laws of the land afterall we are a democracy. I would not dream of going to America and defacing an effigy of George Bush, or anywhere else for that matter.

[bulbousdome]

One last pont about the treason issue I actually said it was probably still a mild form of treason and that the majority of British people who accept the Royal Family are the ones being defaced by this low life. I was not offended by it myself but I am sure there are lots of other law abiding citizens who were!

[joko]

My comments were not meant as an insult, they were meant because I believe that's how some of you are starting to sound with your ill-thought-out ramblings & hatemongerering. It's clear from the posts that you don't listen or care about the truth as you just keep spouting the same nonsense, despite being told the facts. I'm stunned that you're putting him in league with ian huntley & peter sutcliffe! unbelievable! & you wonder why i called you braindead idiots!

Bulb-i can't be arsed - how do you suppose I'm in the minority?? If you actually stop & think for once you'll see that it's the same small group who are posting the nasty stuff over & over - have you actually read the replies? didn't you see the almost unanimous roaring applause he got going in?? are you unaware he's the current favourite? come on try to keep up

as for your frankly stupid statement about peter sutcliffe & ian huntley being released...when exactly were these two released once the police had evidence of their crimes?? Suspicion is not enough to convict. They were never released - get your facts straight

Drisgirl - you are biased, your other posts prove that
druiaghtagh - this isn't the first of these sorts of posts there are many, all from the same people, so my comments were a buildup based on all

It's clear that some of you are just spiteful, hate mongerers & theres no point in talking about it anymore as your closed minds are obviously made up

so for the last time - he's not a killer! he's just a stupid drunken fool who did the wrong thing - get over it!

[sunflower68]

bulbousdome,

"Read into this what you like" you said in your earlier thread. I suggest you have the opinion MB is one of the detested killers you mentioned, in the making. What a remarkable assumtion of someone's character you make.

Also, someone that wants to do something on the spur of the moment (gouge out the Queen's eyes, anyone?)will not attempt to say "no, let's stop this nonsense. Pass the sticky tape and fast - I'm about to explode with rage". Anyway, was I not agreeing with you earlier that he was a loose cannon.

Are you serious about your grandmother's picture. With all due respect to her, what you said is funny, let's just say.

By the way, if being anti-royal makes me a good or bad person in anyone's eyes is certainly not a problem of mine.

[bulbousdome]

Joke -Oh-NO!

After Huntley was convicted, it was revealed that he had been investigated in the past for sexual offences and burglary but had still been allowed to work in a school. Home Secretary David Blunkett ordered an inquiry into these failings, chaired by Sir Michael Bichard, and later ordered the suspension of David Westwood, Chief of Humberside Police. The outcome of the inquiry criticised Humberside Police for deleting information relating to previous allegations against Huntley, as well as criticising Cambridgeshire Police for not following vetting guidelines. An added complication into the vetting procedures was the fact that Huntley had applied for the caretaker's job under the name of Ian Nixon. It is believed that Humberside Police did not check under the name Huntley on the police computer - if they had then they would have discovered a burglary charge left on file - or they might not have checked at all.

KEEP UP LAD!

[bulbousdome]

POKE-OOOH!

I Quote

Sutcliffe killed Barbara Leach (aged 20), a Bradford student, in September, his sixteenth attack. Yet again the murder of a woman who was not a prostitute aroused the public and prompted an expensive publicity campaign, which unfortunately pushed the Wearside connection. Even with this false lead, Sutcliffe was re-interviewed on at least two occasions in 1979 but, despite matching several forensic clues and being on the list of just 300 names in connection with the �5 note, he was not strongly suspected. In total, Sutcliffe was interviewed by the police on nine occasions.

Its amazing what an unhinged person will do to cover up there tracks!

KEEP IN THERE LAD WE WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED

[sunflower68]

Joko, once again I have to agree with your statement. "Bulb, I can't be arsed".

[bulbousdome]

Sunflower!

Is a man free of guilt if he lies and/or refuses to answer questions relating to a suspicious death on their property? Are they less guilty if the death involves an adult rather than a child?

If you can answer yes to both questions then you have just re-written the law of the land, congratulations!

As for the camera issue why did he not deface ALL the cameras situated in the BB house? You mention about him saying 'Get me some sticky tape I'm going mad' well shouting 'Get me a lemon slicer' seems stranger to me. How many people have sticky tape in their house compared to a readily available lemon slicer....Hmmm!

[bulbousdome]

At the end of the day I agree with all posts including Jo-Ko, Sunflower etc.

Everybody has the right to be innocent until proven guilty if this were not the case we then we have no freedom. I think most views on the answer bank however are trying to put across the point that individuals who display aggressive behaviour, or try to cover up their involvment in a crime whether directly responsible or not should be closely monitored. It would be a safer world for everyone if bad apples were removed from the basket and given help before they become past their sell by date.

[Drisgirl]

Right joko - Had enough of your nonsense.You, in one of your later posts said you were reacting to the fact he was compared with mass murderers by saying we were brain dead.No-one had made that assumption but you felt it OK to call the posters braindead at that point.

I object to your remark about me being biased - pinpoint it and I will concede - I merely posted a rational opinion and asked for others.

I never expected it would degenerate into this.

I merely gave an opinion and haver never slagged an ABer - I have just maintained what I feel is happening now.

I NEVER once brought his past into it - yes I do have a personal opinion on that but kept it to myself.

IMO - he is a manipulative ,self obsessed, psychologically damaged man who requires help.I personally dont think he attacked the Queen as an anti royal statement - it was the only picture there.

My point was he used a sharp implement and IF you have watched the programme you will become to realise his behaviour is not the old MB - he is not zany he is crazy.

[Drisgirl]

To joko and a.n others - what makes you think that MB has the monopoly on lifes hard knocks?

No-one is out to lynch him,no one cares he is gay.

If the majority of people on here were to be honest we have all had to deal with hard knocks (not run away from them) - what makes him so special then.He has loads of money (I have struggled),he has an inbred arrogance the public will accept him (doubt it we are not fools),He chose to escape to NZ (I had to sell my house and renovate a cottage in order to give my children a roof over their heads),He gave up his career because of his own misdemeanours (I had to give up a management post in order to look after my children because at that point I was beyond juggling)I got myself sorted - awright - he hasnt.

Why slag people off when all they are doing is proferring an opposing view.

He really doesnt deserve the support he is receiving.He would diss you if you so much as asked for his autograph.He is not the man of the people.

[joko]

bulbousdome- as i said, suspicion is not enough. if they had any real evidence for the crimes they were actually investgating they would not have been released. that huntley was employed by the school is the schools fault for not checking.
besides, none of this is relevent- MB is NOT a killer- how many times do these few simple words need to be said for you comprehend it??
you're correct that offenders need to be monitored, no-one is suggesting otherwise. But monitoring & hatemongering are not the same. You cannot arrest people for what you think they might do. MB being a bit strange is not a case to suspect him of being violent.
I fully agree MB acted like an idiot - he was out of his skull remember - and he lied & hid facts & for that he'll always be a b*stard, but that doesn't make him in league with serial killers & child murderers-come on-even you can see that, surely!
I do not have a softly softly approach-you leave me alone in a room with huntley &sutcliffe & a machete & see how softly softly i am.
Drsigirl-sick of your nonsense too. Rational? you've condemned a man for something he didn't do & accused him of potentially committing GBH - is that rational? & if, as you're now trying to claim, you're concerned that he's insane - since when is being ill a crime? if you're right, he needs help, not condemning.
His reaction to the pic of the queen could have been his way of telling the world how hurt he is by britain & to show his anger at the uk he has defaced its figurehead - so who says its an act of madness - could have been a calculated gesture of defiance -& after reading the crap on here i don't blame him.
I am not excusing his behaviour but all this hate, hate hate stuff is ridiculous.
Try focussing this vitriol on the real monsters, not some foolish bloke who got pished and did the wrong thing. he was too drunk and scared to full comprehend what was going on

[joko]

You know what?

This discussion is going nowhere.
We could argue all night but it�s pointless - we all have our opinions and no amount of bickering is going to change that. It saddens me to say but that is the way it is
Bulbsdome � you said �innocent until proven guilty� and you are right so�Lets all calm down and resume this discussion IF he does something wrong & lets just see if he wins bb for a true example of how the public feel about him, eh?
Peace to all.

[Drisgirl]

joko - Peace for you and I wholeheartedly agree we should all take a step back.

In my defence I never condemned him for something he never did.I have maintained the truth throughout and I do firmly believe was rational and fair.

My initial Q indicated he was in need of help.I think for some reason you have chosen to castigate me - but you are wrong on both counts and it would take a bigger person to reflect and admit it.

Have you actually taken time to read anything I have posted and digested it?

My original Q was a measure of concern.

[truangel]

lets think about this, a boy was found in his pool dead, he had been interfeared with sexually. crocadile tears on numerous occasions in the house for no reason, the hitler impersonation, the queens eyes inncident . its not good isit, i aagree he should have been thrown frm a celebrity platform never to be seen again. those that say they like him do so because they knew him before the whole body in pool incident, so they feel attached to him. imagine if it was some nobody from, lets say, london who this had happened to, we wudnt b so slow to condem. the man is clearly unstable and a real danger to everyone.

it makes me sick to think the poor perents of stuart lubbock have to just sit around knowing the killer of theie soon is on tv clawing his way back to fame. do they not deserve some peace. i feel for them i really do. im not goin to comment anymore i have alot to say on the subject but its wound me up lol. and im sure u dont want to sit here and read pages of comments all from me. but you get where im coming from.