Why Can't We Deal With Shop Lifting?

[ToraToraTora]

https://news.sky.com/story/we-need-help-workers-say-shoplifting-is-out-of-control-as-brazen-thefts-explode-13256656

 

[gulliver1]

Because if the goods are worth under £200 ,then they get away with it.

[nicebloke1]

The cons cut the police force numbers.

[ToraToraTora]

gawd elp us it's dumb and dumber....can you two even perceive the idea of a discussion?

[youngmafbog]

//The cons cut the police force numbers.//

And put them back.  Next.

[youngmafbog]

TTT, the answer is right on Liberalism that has infected our Courts and our Police.

 

[nicebloke1]

The cons closed many court houses.

[youngmafbog]

I see, so moved on from Police numbers then.

Yes they did close some - and opened others.  Still doesnt explain why we dont deal with, at least the prolific, shoplifters.

 

Seemed to be enough Courts and beaks to deal with locking away political prisoners pronto.

 

[douglas9401]

I was just saying to the boss last night that in Spanish supermarkets the security operatives have an impressive baton in their belt and the ones I've seen don't look worried about using it to get the attention of thieves.

Of course our lawmakers adopt a more touchy feely approach and arrest those who defend property. That's the answer.

Along with allowing for cultural differences too. 🙄

[rowanwitch]

Because shoplifting is a very multifaceted crime

A) crime of desperation, usually those who have addictions, or who due to extreme poverty are tempted apparently a common reason given by women  is to obtain gifts for a child  when they can't get the item from their income,  Most commonly low level.

B) Crime of addiction.  Risk taking behaviour when there is no financial driver  the person stealing does it for the adrenaline buzz or dopamine reward. Often starts with children daring one another in some cases it carried on.

C) organised or semi organised,  people steal on demand, sometimes those involved are illegals, or have debts to those involved in organised crime. Usually work in gangs, with distraction techniques or a willingness to use violence of aggression to escape.

D) crime of protest... The processing of high value items as say a bag of spuds through a self checkout, the perpetrator considers it  justified as a protest at the change in the shop's processing of sales.

E) dissociation... A failure to realise that even though the crime is perpetrated on a business there is an impact associated with their behaviour.  Also covers the theft from larger businesses where the person considers their actions to be so small as not to count.

On the strength of the above which were all I could think of at the moment there are a number of root causes

1) poverty,  with associated separation from mainstream society. There will always be those who want what they can't afford but those who steal from what they perceive as genuine need may respond to proper support including education in money management or with addiction.

2) risk addiction could to some extent be reduced by offering alternatives Young people especially are sheltered from almost all risk when it is needed to develop situation assessment skills. Education services may have a role

3) Criminal justice system needs to be enabled  to accept that lower entry level crimes should be dealt with seriously but also in ways that address the underlying cause.  Where organised crime is involved it should be treated as seriously as drugs or sex crimes with those at the bottom of the scale being considered to be victims rather than villains. Those further up in the organisation being targeted for harsher punishment.

4) A new type of prison?  Maybe reeducation centres for people in the early stages of criminal activity , to include training in skills to increase employability, mental health support, addiction services to include proper therapy for those for whom addiction is a symptom of deeper underlying pathology.  These could provide out of work  hours compulsory accomodation. Reducing contact with the persons circle that supports the criminal behaviour. Or full time intense retraining and correction.  Just locking people up doesn't work.   There's probably more I can say but that's enough to be going on with

[douglas9401]

Oh boo effing hoo.

Thieving and that's all about it.