which came first chicken or the egg?

[gutfish]

i've been thinkin of this for some time and wanted to share my thoughts. here goes -

evolution takes place during reproduction, so the chicken-like bird that evolved into what we now know as a CHICKEN (but was not a chicken) gave birth to a CHICKEN. obviously this took time to happen, but thats basically what happened.

so the egg the 1st chicken came out of was not a CHICKEN egg, but the egg of a similar bird that eventually became chicken.

SO.... the EGG came 1st although it wasnt a CHICKEN egg. so if the question is WHICH CAME 1ST THE CHICKEN OR THE CHICKEN EGG? it would be the CHICKEN as u need a CHICKEN to lay a CHICKEN EGG but for the 1st CHICKEN to be created a CHICKEN EGG was not needed.

anyone think i'm an idiot or did that make sense???

[Clanad]

Yes and no...

[Lonnie]

I think you've done brilliantly, probably gave yourself a massive headache at the same time.

Going on what you've posted, and if you believe in the evolutionary theory, my considered opinion is, it has to have been the Chicken egg that came first,

I think that a Chicken like creature, would have laid an egg with the yolk of the 'pure' Chicken, and so on, and so on, and so on.

[Outdoorsman]

I think it was a chicken like creature that was created first, because, otherwise, how could the egg hatch without its parents warmth.

"Steady State" theory?

[MikeMikeMike]

It all depends, in my considered opinion, on whether the chicken can be considered to 'own' the egg from which it hatched. It it was 'the chicken's egg', then presumably it was the egg which came first. If the egg is considered to be the property of its parent, which is not a chicken (as has already been established) then it would be the chicken. property law gets in the way of everything. The idea that the chicken might belong to its egg is fatuous and I defy anyone to claim otherwise.

[Noweia]

I agree with you, gutfish!

[jno]

then an egg containing a chicken was laid by a creature that wasn't a chicken. Sounds odd - do wrens appear from eggs laid by albatrosses? - but I think you're right.

[drgnrdr]

The egg came first if you believe in evolution the chicken if you believe in God.

[polyxena]

I once seen a chicken and a egg, lying in bed together, the chicken was smoking a cigarette with a smile.. I think that answers the question

[Bohne]

the egg came first, since other animals where laying eggs, long before the chicken was even thought about!

[skilliyay]

I agree with mike, it all depends if you define a chicken egg as "an egg that will harbour a chicken" or as "an egg that was laid by a chicken".

Its a matter of definition, very similar to the "tree falling in woods" scenario. This depends on whether you define sound as "Vibrations transmitted through an elastic solid or a liquid or gas, with frequencies in the approximate range of 20 to 20,000 hertz, capable of being detected by human organs of hearing" or as "The sensation stimulated in the organs of hearing by such vibrations in the air or other medium".

[yassa]

Surly the **** *** first. lol

[yassa]

surly the ******* came first

[yassa]

surly the male chicken was the first to come.