Pretty Woman

[patc7641]

And pretty much anything else Julia Roberts is in. I have been arguning with a (female) friend about this. Surely this film is an insult to everyones intelligene. Multi millionaire! Richard Gere!! Decides to marry prozzie!!! C'mon!!!! Badly written, badly acted and gives me the boke every time. Actually sums up most of Julia Roberts films. Erin Brockovitch excepted which was surprisingly good.

[JulieB123]

Its a good job were all different and don't like the same things Backdrifter, i really really hate Titanic worst movie ever.

[Backdrifter]

Yeah Julie, in essence it's pretty bad (Titanic) but for some reason I find it suitable mindless viewing that I can withstand. So it's your worst ever film? Mine would be Even Cowgirls Get The Blues. I might even watch Pretty Woman in preference to that!

[Memore]

Backdrifter - Yes is my answer to your question! But I could be wrong!

[patc7641]

Thanks backdrifter, sanity in the thread. I think we can put this one to rest. PW and, lets face it, all JR's movies stink, big time. lnsulting to anyone with any intelligence. A complete waste of anyones money, and even worse, time. All this nonsense about being a great actress is rubbish. She isnt exactly De Niro is she. How many of her movies are classics!! Answer - none, and never will be. On another point though, which I might use in another posting is that women cant act anyway. At least not in the same level or intensity that men can. How many actresses can carry a movie on their own?? Possibly only Jodie Foster nowadays. In the past, possibly Bette Davis, Joan Crawford and Kathrine Hepburn. SO maybe its not JR's fault, she was always doomed.

[Adrienne K]

I think it's a gorgeous 'feelgood' movie - she's gorgeous in it, Gere is gorgeous too! of course it's all a fantasy, but she sure as hell neither looks nor behaves like a bog standard *****! She's never been as lovely again, but she's very good in a very serious (if pretentious) British film, CLOSER, which is much easier to sit through than was the original playl

[jump79]

I was kidding about Runaway Bride, did nobody get the joke? Oh well...

patc7641, another movie I'd recommend is Mona Lisa Smile, its very touching and witty, a classic JR movie, I'm sure you'll like it :)

[Backdrifter]

Blimey jump79, I just re-read your original Runaway Bride post - you like your subtlety don't you! In fact it was SO subtle it just sounded (well, to me anyway) completely on the level. However, I shall take your Mona Lisa Smile remarks, and indeed ALL future posts from you, with truckloads of salt!

Must admit i haven't seen Closer. But I'll never get the 'gorgeous' thing Adrienne. I just don't go for that 'letterbox' look. And I don't get the thing women have for old Piggy-Eyes Gere.

Oh, patc7641.... we were in total agreement then you torpedoed our shared goodwill! First with your women can't act theory then your barely-believable championing of Jodie One-Expression Foster (unless of course I've yet again fallen foul of jump79-style sarcasm on both counts!)

[patc7641]

Tut tut Backdrifter. Sorry to have fallen out with you, but, if you read my thread,I didnt say they couldnt act, just not to the same level, and, whisper it, believeability. Jodie Foster was mentioned purely in dispatches as she starred in, and provided good support, in Taxi Driver. Imagine it with women playing the leads?? No, didnt think so. Women cant carry movies, unless its chic flick drivel, or worse, high school teens!! ( ahhhhhhhh!!!). I would never, at present anyway, go to see a movie with an actress carrying it. And back to PW and JR, the female threaders on here capitalise my view that as long as there are women prepared to watch it, hollywood will make it, no matter how ***** it is.

[Backdrifter]

I recognise the distinction you made but disagree with it and the rest of what you said re actresses. No of course I can't imagine an all-female-led Taxi Driver - because I'd be imagining an entirely different film. That film isn't written to be have female leads and I don't have the creative vision to rethink it as such. I would never take that as a basis for therefore saying "see - women can't do it"!

I've been moved, amused, enraged and all the rest of it by female leads in films and TV shows (and on stage) just the same as I have by male performances, so am happy to say I don't share your view on this at all.

Taxi Driver was without doubt Foster's finest moment, most particularly the cafe scene with de Niro. You suggested that she is nowadays the only female lead who can carry a film - if I were only going to pick out one it would be Kidman; Foster is next to useless.

[patc7641]

Ah backdrifter, we shall just have to agree to differ then. The point I will agree on is TV and stage where actresses do seem to be more at ease in their medium and are able to convey more acting skill. Unable to offer a reason for this though.