Glad I read the above article before I posted this - just incase I was being unfair when I called them a pair of selfish, self pitying so called parents, I'm not! What a dreadful life their children are leading...no happy carefree childhood for them, and little prospect of them growing up to be happy well adjusted adults either, considering that one of them has alredy tried to end her life! And she's being bullied not just at school but at home by her 12 year old sister who is quite unemotional about everything...does'nt like either recieving or giving little kisses or cuddles from her siblings! While I don't advocate placing them in care as they clearly love their parents, I feel that the parents should be made to accept more of the help that is available to them! Glad to see that they now have a bigger house, a family liason officer and no longer smoke indoors...not much I know, but it's a move in the right direction!