This is why people are voting for the BNP

[vehelpfulguy]

If anybody wonder why more and more people are voting BNP then read this

(link in next append as it is too long to go here).

A huge family of Romanians who live in Slough and came here when Romania joined the EU.

Many of them cannot even read and write in their own language.

What on earth benefit are they to this country.

If anyone wants an example of why this country is going down the pan then this is it.

[vehelpfulguy]

Link here (yes I know it is the Daily Mail)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles /news/news.html?in_article_id=452328&in_page_i d=1770

[stokeace]

that is a disgrace .no doubt we taxpayers are footing the bill for these people and untold thousands of others immigrants.no wonder there is no money to run the nhs and other vital services properly they all ought to be rounded up and if they havent got the relative visas ought to be shipped back to their country of origin wherther they are iraqis,polish or whatever.no wonder this country is in such a state we look after other people before we look after our own its all well and good being charitable and some people are here for a genuine reason but there are thousands of illegals here as well.enoch powell predicted this would happen in the 1960s and he is 100% spot on.he will be spinning in his grave.

[sp1814]

Are there any figures which document the effect on the economy of all the new Europeans coming over to work in bars, restaurants, service industries and the building trades etc?

I'm referring to all those young lads and lasses you see every day going to work at ungodly hours and stuff.

Or would that spoil the picture because it's better to think of them as a mass horde coming over to pillage the NHS and snaffle dole cheques?

Why do we get only one picture?

Oh hang on...I think I know why...

[Oneeyedvic]

Does any Daily Mail article point out how it's late owner (Lord Rothermere) was a tax exile and therefore didn't pay an estimated �600 Million worth of tax?

Or is that tax payers money that doesn't count?

Of course, it does suit people to have 'foreigners' to blame with out looking at indigenous people: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lizzy_Bardsley

[Pippa68]

Thanks for that Oneeyedvic...I just barfed up my lunch ;o)

[youngmafbog]

I think the point here is that is does happen and it should not. Yes there are many coming here who we should welcome but they are not the topic of the question so why bring them into it?

Same goes for the so called Lord evading tax. It is wrong but not pertinet to the question.

So what do the posters of the above two comments think of THIS question without going off at a tangent?

[spaced]

we need to start standing up for ourselves. Im had enough of all this immagration bowlarks. Our country is being raped and mistreted by these freeloaders and this effin government is letting them.

[Reverandfunk]

I am english, single, 38 so have paid 22 years worth of tax and NI. If I leave my job tomorrow for whatever and go to my local council and say can I have a house please they would laugh at me.

I come to this country from wherever, have nothing to offer, have ,made no contribution and will not work because I dom't speak the language, I go to the council and get a house AND benfits.

I will be voting for the BNP in my area for this reason and before any do gooders start waffling on, come to Sandwell and see what it's like.

[Pippa68]

I do apologise. Lizzie Bardsley put me off my stroke.

This needs addressing, there is no doubt about it (immigration AND Lizzie Bardsley) However I wouldn't be voting BNP as I believe a certain amount of immigration is for the common good. A while ago I knew a Kosovan who worked for Mr P. He never received any benefits, and worked with us for 3 years..paying tax/NI etc. He was deported, as he had only come here as a refugee.

He wanted to stay, we wanted him to stay..and he had a very important and valid input in our society. If I voted BNP I would never have the opportunity to meet people like him again.

[jake-the-peg]

Sandwell

Place of birth (all people) Value Eng & Wal

Born in UK ...............................................255829
Born elsewhere in EU (inc Rep Ireland) 3019
Born outside EU .......................................24056

Religion (all people)

Christian......194138
Buddhist.............348
Hindu ...............5577
Jewish..................84
Muslim...........13051
Sikh................19429
Other ..................455

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/census2001/profil es/00cs.asp
No religion 29474
Religion not stated 20348

[Reverandfunk]

Jake - Thanks but oh how things change in 6 years lol

[sp1814]

This is an extreme story which centres on a family of spongers.

I think the point that some of us are trying to get across is that for every family like this, you have a thousand who are normal, hardworking and great for the economy.

This gets ignored, because it doesn't dovetail with the filthy point of view of the BNP.

[Oneeyedvic]

youngmafbog"So what do the posters of the above two comments think of THIS question without going off at a tangent? "

I'm guessing that the question was "What on earth benefit are they to this country" - the answer is nothing at the moment.

I'm simply asserting two factors: one is that they are simply taking advantage of current laws - exactly like most people / companies do. Secondly there are plenty of home grown talented people like Lizzy who do exactly the same -exactly nothing.

With regards Reverandfunk's assertion, if he were a British born and bred girl aged 38 and fell pregnant, then he would be able to get a council house.

Council houses are given to people who need them rather than people who want them. There are plenty of English people who live in council houses.

[yolande]

I came to the UK from abroad and now work as a nurse in the NHS. I speak excellent English and have never received any benefits. I pay my taxes just like you do, and contribute to the economy. This Daily Mail article chooses to tell one side of the story, and some of the biased views of people on these pages make me disappointed in some of the UK population.

[jake-the-peg]

I don't think they look like they're changing half as much as you think they are.

for example in 2005 just over 70% of inpatients and outpatients in Sandwell Hospital were white

http://www.swbh.nhs.uk/documents/RaceEqualityS cheme2005.pdf

I strongly suggest you find some evidence to support your opinions otherwise people might start to think they're just uninformed rantings.

I do hope you all wear your BNP badges next time you're in a hospital - especially if Yolande is taking a blood sample from you!

[bigmalc]

Hopefully today will produce a good result for the SNP in Scotland, then we can start the process of ditching English fascists like the BNP!

Of course, I recognise that Scotland has its fair share of racist idiots too, but the two countries clearly have different needs and agendas. Scotland needs immigrants and, on the whole, welcomes them. It is difficult to reconcile, then, the fact that the British government are pursuing an active policy of anti-immigration. If the English were serious about wanting to maintain the union for the benefit of all member states, then they would do well to consider the immigration needs of Scotland.

I find it incredibly sad that some people get so wound-up about the prospect of anyone coming to live on this island. I don't know why people's perceptions on this issue are so skewed. As for the misconceived notion that newcomers are benefit scroungers... no-one who comes to Britain as either an economic migrant or an asylum seeker can claim benefits for the first TWO YEARS of their stay, by which time they will most likely have found a job and be paying atx anyway.

[Joe_the_Lion]

The BNP have some excellent policies but do you really want them in?

1) They would criminalise homosexuality.
2) They want every soldier who has completed National Service (I support) to have a gun in their home
3) Repatriation policies. Whilst I wholeheartedly support stopping ALL immigartion and asylum with immediate effect, I do not really want to force anybody non-white back to their original country. And mixed race children.

A bit too extreme for my liking, but better than labour.

[tiny e.a]

I agree that there should be closer monitoring of immigrants on the dole, just as there should be of most people on the dole. Nothing could ever make me turn to the BNP though, the idea of them gaining any power at all actually scares the sh!t out of me. It would be the worst thing for this society that cold happen, far worse than a few illegal immigrant scrounging off the state.

[sp1814]

Joe_The_Lion

Are you sure they want to criminalise homosexuality???

Who would like to bet that they'd have an exemption clause for lesbians.

I'd put �100 on that.