overcrowding -gmtv

[gina32]

i was watching gmtv this morning and they were on about overcrowding and spoke to a woman who had 6 kids herself and hubby in a 2 bed flat, when asked why she had so many kids she said that she has lived there for 12 years and thought the council would have rehoused her by now, surely she should have waited until they had rehoused her before having so more kids?

[cyanide]

Well yes maybe you and i would but there is a family like that where i live-mum,dad, son,daughter and her 4 kids in a 2 bedroomed house and all they do is complain about the council,she keeps having kids with different men who also stick around at the house for a few weeks then disappear.
I don`t know is my answer.

[redcrx]

I dont think they have a right to demand a larger house.

They have chosen to have children knowing what accomodation they have, perhaps they can find a house to rent privately.

I cant have another child until I buy a larger house. i could afford a larger house and family if i didnt have to pay tax and yet these people expect my tax to go towards giving them a house they think the deserve.

Something doesnt quite add up does it

[galltin]

I kind of see your points but a council won't rehouse you just because you want to have children.
They will , in fact , only rehouse you once the child is born , if then.
It is of course hugely difficult to get a council house these days since the Tory party lead by Thatcher sold off the vast majority of council housing stock , which is probably why the woman on the tv was in the fix she is in.

[Miss Inquiry]

Having no kids I can't really comment on bringing them up in a crowded house, and I know nothing about council housing, but I did chuckle to myself whilst watching this this morning, she was complaining her and her husband never get any private time to themselves - WHAT - they obviously managed somehow, she had 6 kids!!!

[redcrx]

I know of a woman who has a child to increase her income, shes had her children removed (3 of them all different dads) because they were unsafe, she has another on the way. She is now kicking up a fuss becase she no longer is entitled to a 3 bed house.

I think that we shall see more and more teenage pregnancies if the councils (or housing associations) are continually being seen to hand out homes if you have more children. There are always Qs on here from parents asking why their council wont give them a bigger house as they have more children on the way, these children cant all be unplanned.

Something has to stop it spiralling out of control and soon

[gina32]

miss inquiry i also laughed when i heard her say that. suirely she must have realised that after teh 3 child they werent goint o move her

[eyeshade]

I saw this too, it makes my blood boil. But the TV company were making it look as though the Council should automatically give her somewhere to live because she can't be bothered to use birth control!

[gina32]

thats the way it seemed to come across.

[missrandom]

dont even get me started on this. Its there own silly fault that they keep having children, if they were a bit more responsible and thought hang on ive only got a 2 bed flat, iwont be able to fit anymore kids in. its such a p!ss take, keep knocking the kids out and someone else can pay for them. i had to wait until we bought our second house to have another and if we wanted another we wouldnt, we couldnt afford it. count themselves lucky theyve a decent roof over their heads, and get given money for food, sky tv, fags, booze etc yes redcrx, i aggree thats why we have the highest teenage pregnancy rate in europe, because itsthe quickest way to get given a house for nothing, wake up government.

[Goodsoulette]

Just because you have a council house doesnt mean you arent paying for your rent yourself. Myabe this wasnt the case here but she is overcrowded and like it or not thats the point of social housing. How many of you wouldnt be on the property ladder if it werent for you or your parents having right to buy.

Blah blah blah.... teenage mums getting pregnant deliberately to get a house. How many really do that????? The reason we have a high pregnancy rate is because sex is everywhere and adults dont set an example. Not enough is done to make our children feel like they are worth more.

You cant be annoyed at council houses. They are there to house large families and small families and single people and the elderly. Do you really think they like the situation they are in, more than likely not.

[missrandom]

yeah i do think they like the situation. people need to take resposibility for their own actions. one "mistake" pregnancy, maybe, two possibly, but come off it people cant keep getting "accidently" pregnant. i know a couple of people who are on benefits in their council house and they have more money than any of my friends, and are always harping on about what they dont get, what a hard life...not. for the record my parents didnt have a council house, not we are not rich, we have just all worked, normal jobs at that. sex maybe everywhere but so is birth control and the education on it. its not rocket science, unprotected sex = baby.

[Goodsoulette]

God forbid Miss Random, you have children fall on hard circumstances and need to go into a council house and live on benefits. 100 quid a week, to raise 2 children, especially if you are trying to pay off credit you have taken out whilst solvent and working.
The council wont rehouse you just in case you want to have more kids, it doesnt work like that.
Do you really think 4 children deserve to live in cramped conditions?

[missrandom]

i think if u happen to fall on hard times than, yes thats what coucil housing is for. but u know aswell as me that generation after generation in the same family the same cycle is repeated. i do think that people should not keep having more children when they obviously cant afford it, as someone else has to pick up the pieces. like i said before then yes if you fall on hard times thats what it is there for, but to purposely get pregnant to be housed, and yes thousands out there do that, then its tough if you dont have the house you want. you have to work for that. you cant always get what you want. we are in a terrace house and would love a semi, we cant afford so we will go without.

[missrandom]

also the people i know are getting a lot more than �100 a week, what with child tax credit, housing benefit, child allowance, working tax credit

[MK66]

I have worked full-time since I left college 21 years ago - fell on hard times through a relationship break-up and was made homeless. I was given a council house with my child. We are lucky to have a 3-bed house but this means we have one spare bedroom. I have asked (and asked) the Council if we can move to a smaller property as I know there are loads of people who need a larger property but can't get one - but the Council just aren't interested. The only way I can do this is to do a mutual exchange or move to a different area. Apparently we're not under-occupying as we only have one spare room, not two.