After a convo last night with my sister...

[Rubyrose]

... whilst watching Big Brother, we had a debate about how people can be so evil and nasty and it shows in their faces! I don't mean by facial expressions but I mean just pure uglyness!

My sister said you can get pretty people who are nasty but I disagree. Coz even though conventionally they seem pretty.... they never are. I believe inner beauty is reflected on a face. Also I was watching Ugly Betty and I happen to think when she smiles, a real genuine smile, she is beautiful. Even with her braces and big glasses that are meant to make her look ugly! I think a smile lights up a face. Any face. My point is... even the statistically ugly looking faces can look beautiful if the person has inner beauty... I don't mean with the use of cosmetics.
But on Big Brother last night... Charley was scowling and moaning and b!tching and she looked so evil and nasty and just not a nice person at all... then during a weak and genuine moment... she began to laugh and for a small second she looked really pretty! Instead of just having such a hard face!

What do you think?

[dot.hawkes]

I agree, a smile costs nothing and you can;'t sell shoes if you look like you just swallowed a wasp, a smile may not cost anything but it can boost your commission lol

[ummmm]

I have seen some very very ugly people that no matter how lovely they were it would never make them look beautiful.

I think it more of the reverse. Beautiful people who are horrible start to look ugly.

[Rubyrose]

But Ummm... If someone you cared about alot and considered a good friend was Ugly, but very caring and sweet and genuinely a nice person. If you saw them happily smiling and laughing, wouldn't you consider that more beautiful than seeing someone who is conventionally (considered) beautiful laughing at something vindictive and evil?

[Goodsoulette]

My aunt was attractive in an odd way when she was in her late teens, a bit like a young Barbara Streisand but then she went more evil than she was in the first place, lots of tyre slashing and bunny boiler activities, then starting on the family. We call her the witch, she really does look ugly and all evils.

[Goodsoulette]

Oh and why do some women, normally Pe Teachers, have those permanently down turned mouths?

[Rubyrose]

I think if you are ugly inside... it leaks to the outside.... it eventually shows on your exterior!

I have beautiful friends... and I would consider them all lovely caring people... they are probably not what you would consider 'models' (not coz they don't have the firgures for it, but coz their faces wouldn't fit that criteria)... But then I know girls who are genuinely evil.. nasty pieces of work and downright vindictive but they are slim, slender, have all the guys after them... but they have the ugliets of faces!! Their relationships don't last long as they normally cheat or make a mess of it but coz of their firgures they manage to get people... even though their faces are so hard looking!

[ummmm]

My best mate is not what I consider good looking at all. But yea...when he's happy he looks lovely. But I know him and love him as he is and it's always nice looking at a person you care about smiling. When it comes to forming friendships I couldn't care what they looked like as long as they are good decent human beings.

[ummmm]

I have a friend (I'm using that loosely) who is very good looking but she's not that nice. We're not that friendly anymore which is down to the fact of her being jealous of me. She see's me getting attention from men and doesn't like it. What she fails to see is these men are my friends and friends only and they stay in my life because I'm nice. All she sees is that they like me more than her so it must mean that I'm slagging her off, in her mind it couldn't possibly be because they just like me better because I'm the nicer person.

Thinking about it as well. When I started seeing the bloke I'm seeing now a few of my friends (male) asked what I see in him. When I first met him I didn't really find him attractive at all. Within a few hours of talking to him I started to find him attractive. Now I've got to know him I think he's gorgeous.

[Rubyrose]

Ummm - Exactly... my friends are sweet caring people who make me laugh and thats why they are my friends.. :o)

Leg-end...I don't know if I agree with that... I could say if I found another woman attractive or ugly because when it comes to looks, I am not normally a jealous person. But I do find my judgement clouded as they say you tend to find people attractive who share similar looks to your own.... and I may find a brunette woman more attractive than a blonde one simply coz I'd associate myself with the brunette more!

[ummmm]

Legend....that's not true. I can honestly look at other women and see how good looking they are. I also don't get jealous as I'm pretty much contented with who I am and how I look.

[Rubyrose]

Awww thats nice Ummm!

When I started fancying my ex (back in 2000).. My friends asked me what I saw in him as they didn't think he was that attractive and neither did I... but the more I fancied him, the more I found him attractive coz he was just a nice person and great to be around. He was really genuine and not an ounce of b!tchyness about him!.... Now that we have broken up, he is a totally different person and all bitter and nasty.... I don't find him attractive at all now!

[Rubyrose]

No not a size issue at all! Considering all my friends are like size 10's and I am a size 14! Doesn't bother me at all. We all get just as many guys as eachother as we win them over on personalities coz we are nice people.........

My point being (and I am using a person in particular now)... I used to work with a girl who was slim, slender, and all the guys fancied her but on first instinct would only ever see her body coz she had a nice body... but she had such an ugly face... she looked like one of those 'Troll Dolls'... I wanted to dye her hair pink and punk it up..... But once she got with a guy.... it never lasted as she was such a b!tch.. and she was evil and cheated on her Fianc� (who worked with us).. she slept with guys in the office where we all worked... she would pick up guys on work nights out..... she was just not a nice person at all.. she won guys over with her body.. and then lost them when her personality came into play!

[Rubyrose]

Not at all.... I see pics of him of when we were together and back then he is a very attractive guy..... he had a nice genuine caring smile and was just nice to be around... but now... he looks haggered and bitter! Just not the same guy... I still found him attractive for months after he left me but after time went on.. he started to look less appealing! It doesn't bother me at all that he left me... did me a big favour! Only wish he could see it, instead of crying about breaking my heart all the time!...

[sleepy1]

maybe thats why im ugly looking im nasty ;( it must show in my face now