EU constitution, wool pulling attempt mark 2?

[Loosehead]

Why are our polictians, of all political hues, so desperate to submerge us into a corrupt unaccountable superstate?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6763121 .stm
Could this be His Tonyness's last attempt at demonstrating what a good EU chap he is, possibly puting himself in the frame as the 1st President of the USE?

[Gromit]

Fear not Loosehead

Good ol' Gordon Brown may asve the day...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml =/news/2007/06/18/neu118.xml

[kwicky]

I think the British public are acting unreasonably when our country is trying to forge closer links with the EU. Some are saying our links to the US and its special relationship has caused untold involvements in conflicts we should have steered well clear of. Our past world dominance is now reduced to a bit part player. We could achieve greater influence by attuning our foreign policies with our EU partners. The geography and trade deals depends on this. Our special relationship should now shift to Europe.

[Kromovaracun]

Well put, Kwicky. The amount of melodrama attached to the idea of a European 'superstate' is ludicrous. Politicians aren't trying to turn the UK into some kind of subordinate federal state, they're simply trying to introduce a more coherent structure to the Union.

Personally? I quite like the kind of twilight the UK has found itself in between the EU and US. Frankly, I don't see what the problem is with having a close relationship with one of the world's most powerful nations*

At the same time, I also quite like the benefits drawn from the EU (despite the fact that we don't really need to be in the EU to enjoy the economic ones). It's worth noting that roughly 40% of our trade comes from the EU. But we've also actually gained a stronger foreign position without acting like the Imperial nation we no longer are. The UK is only subject to EU law which it has agreed to as a sovereign decision in itself, and has a significant voice in shaping policy that affects all other member states.

*(and before anyone starts trying to make it that we're a kind of American puppet - we're not. Granted, Blair has rather idiotically pinned us to US foreign affairs in Iraq, but regardless of how half-witted that was, that's a long way from being a satellite. We're probably one of the most right-wing of Western-European countries, and the USA shares some of our core beliefs. That's by no means a bad thing.)

[youngmafbog]

Tony and the WW would sell their own grandparents for fame and fortune. So whats new?
Come on Loosehead surely we'd be better off fully integral in a superstate that no accountant will sign off the accounts for years.
Corruption, what corruption.

Your Tonyness will achieve in the sweep of a pen what Hitler failed to do.

[Kromovaracun]

What?

Comparing an attempt to codify the powers of institutions governing a Union of 27 states to Hitler's attempted conquest is ludicrous. It's just ludicrous. In fact, it's delusional.

More than delusional, even. It's just plain stupid, frankly.

I can't actually believe you said that...

[delboy3]

Kromovaracun - that's the "logic" these Europhobes employ, if they're not busy comparing the EU to Stalin's Russia and constantly regurgitating the same old clich�d terms e.g."corrupt", "unaccountable".

[Loosehead]

tell you what delboy, I'll stop using "corrupt" just as soon as the commission finds an accountant to sign off the accounts, now is it 12 years......