hitler wins

[seal!]

does anybody know of a good film that is about what would have happend if the Nazi's had won the war

[LeMarchand]

There's a load of books on the subject, but the only movie that springs (quickly) to mind is "Fatherland", based on the book by Robert Harris. It's more a mystery/thriller set in a world under Nazi rule than a film about what would have happened though. It's not a bad movie, but not great. Oh - one of the timelines in "The Philadelphia Experiment 2" has a world under Hitler's rule, though that definitely isn't classed as a good movie!

[Pinotage]

The film 'It Happened Here' is a disturbing and realistic film interspersed with 'newsreels' showing what happened in an occupied Britain, with resistance workers rounded up and executions on village greens. Theres footage of nazi troopers marching through Trafalgar Square and the movie follows a heroine who finds that collaboration is unavoidable and involves a terrible price. The film came out in the late 60's I recall, and its been on TV recently and is available on video.

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As for books, before (the excellent) Fatherland (which I believe was also made as a TV movie) Len Deighton wrote 'SS-GB' a similar tale of a British police detective working underthe Nazis in an occupied Britain (Churchill has been executed andthe King is prisoner in the Tower)who finds a simple murder case has much deeper ramifications.

[nedflanders]

I know what you are saying seal but in reality if d-day had not been successful the russians would have taken over europe and not the germans. They were obliterating the german army who couldn't retreat fast enough and they wouldn't have stopped in berlin. they would have kept going through europe if we (the allied forces) hadn't met them coming the other way.

[AllYourBase]

"The man in the high castle" by Philip K Dick, is based on this premise. Nazis take over Europe and western USA, the Japanese take eastern USA, leaving only a small amount in the middle for Americans. It's a difficult book to read, but has some chilling ideas.

[flashpig]

Fatherland, if I am okay with my memory, is a pretty rubbish film, but has a great introduction based on wartime newsreels. Watch for that.

[bernardo]

"Fatherland" is a brilliant book but a poor film. There are quite a few differences between the two.

[wardedr]

Nedflanders - while there is some merit in what you say - as long as we are imagining 'what if', couldn't the Germans have developed a nuclear bomb then (as in Fatherland) expolded it over New York (with an advanced delivery syestem, of course) as a warning which would put the sh**s up the Russians and anyone else? This would keep the Russians at bay and allow the Germans to invade Britain. Oh by the way, there is a satellite channel programme called 'what if' and I believe one of the episodes was about Hitler's Britain - just have a look at the History Channel every now and again - that kind of stuff is on all the time...

[airbolt]

I'm fairly sure there was a " Twilight Zone " or " Outer Limits " where the hero has a father who died on a ship in the war. He discovers a way to go back and save him . Then he comes back to the present and finds that as a result of his tampering the Nazis are in charge.