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Never trust a lezza.
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I am in two minds over this story.
1) I do not believe gays should adopt children. I have nothing whatsoever against them, but am from the camp who strongly believe being a gaylord or lezza is a genetic thing. Hence the whole business of having children is unatural. Biological determinism is thus best suited to the heterosexual folk.
However.............................
2) This man, although carrying out an act I disagree with, was probably acting out of the kindness of his heart. Ignorant and ill informed of the law, but I believe the lezzas concerned are showing their true colours and man-hating credentials.
So perhaps a reasoned argument from my fellow ABers may sway me one way or t'other.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7125 895.stm
1) I do not believe gays should adopt children. I have nothing whatsoever against them, but am from the camp who strongly believe being a gaylord or lezza is a genetic thing. Hence the whole business of having children is unatural. Biological determinism is thus best suited to the heterosexual folk.
However.............................
2) This man, although carrying out an act I disagree with, was probably acting out of the kindness of his heart. Ignorant and ill informed of the law, but I believe the lezzas concerned are showing their true colours and man-hating credentials.
So perhaps a reasoned argument from my fellow ABers may sway me one way or t'other.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7125 895.stm
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1) I agree homosexuals should not be allowed to look after children. It sets the kids up for a life of confusion and probably a lot of bullying in their early years.
2)As usual the CSA are not using common sense. On some technicality or other the bloke is getting shafted. He should not be punished for trying to be helpful, however misguided he is.
2)As usual the CSA are not using common sense. On some technicality or other the bloke is getting shafted. He should not be punished for trying to be helpful, however misguided he is.
1, I strongly believe that it is better for a child to be brought up by people who are in a happy loving realationship wether that be with gay, lesbian or hetrosexual couples or singles than in any environment that is harmful to that child Ie: abusive, constant rows,drug misuse,etc, the childs welfare is paramount and only the childs welfare.
2, This decision is ridiculous , The CSA is a joke all it does is alienate decent people that want to do the right thing, the sooner it goes the better, he was a bit naive, but that is his only failing they are obviously a nasty pair of individuals who would be horrible whatever their sexual persuassion.
2, This decision is ridiculous , The CSA is a joke all it does is alienate decent people that want to do the right thing, the sooner it goes the better, he was a bit naive, but that is his only failing they are obviously a nasty pair of individuals who would be horrible whatever their sexual persuassion.
there are too many kids out there in homes that offer nothing, no physical security, a terrble living environment, let alone emotional security.Nothing should be based on sexuality, its a small part of an overall person, and I'd rather be brought up with two loving parents of the same sex than that a drug-addicted mother and father(or countless) uncles in a flea-infested house!Ignornant people really annoy me.By the way, in saying this my sexuality shouldn't be an issue, but-(I'm heterosexual by the way) just for the small-minded emotionally unintelligent people out there :-)
Sorry my first point reads rather badly.
This case is not about adoption, moreover the old turkey baster based birth.
It is the sperm donor side of things I disagree with, purely based on my liberal attitude that Gays are born gay just as straights are born straight. It is just a matter of genes. Due to this, the whole concept of having kids goes against nature, both scientifically and religiously.
Regarding adoption (which I apologise was not my intended point), yes of course I would want a child brought up in a loving safe environment as opposed to the horrors found in some homesteads. But, and I do not know figures for adoptions, a straight couple should always take precedence of gays. Partly based on my genetic opinion, and partly based on Mrs T point that the kid may be confused and most certainly bullied by other kids.
Kids in poor schools beat eachother up for wearing trainers two months out of fashion, what will they do if little Timmy has two dads or mums????? Bless him.
This case is not about adoption, moreover the old turkey baster based birth.
It is the sperm donor side of things I disagree with, purely based on my liberal attitude that Gays are born gay just as straights are born straight. It is just a matter of genes. Due to this, the whole concept of having kids goes against nature, both scientifically and religiously.
Regarding adoption (which I apologise was not my intended point), yes of course I would want a child brought up in a loving safe environment as opposed to the horrors found in some homesteads. But, and I do not know figures for adoptions, a straight couple should always take precedence of gays. Partly based on my genetic opinion, and partly based on Mrs T point that the kid may be confused and most certainly bullied by other kids.
Kids in poor schools beat eachother up for wearing trainers two months out of fashion, what will they do if little Timmy has two dads or mums????? Bless him.
Isn't this a good argument in favour of the recent story (which horrified the Daily Mail) that two mothers could/should be considered legal parents - actually leaving the sperm donor out of the equation?
That would solve all this confusion.
Also, the argument about gay couples not being genetically predisposed to having children is non-starter. People are born straight or gay (or bisexual if they damn greedy) but that doesn't mean they can't have it off with a member of their own or the opposite sex.
That would solve all this confusion.
Also, the argument about gay couples not being genetically predisposed to having children is non-starter. People are born straight or gay (or bisexual if they damn greedy) but that doesn't mean they can't have it off with a member of their own or the opposite sex.
SP,
My argument augments both science and religion.
Yes, I am a Christian and if God gave us free will and naughty bits, a gaylord can easily sleep with a women (if aroused enough) and a lezza with a man.
However, I am also a Darwinian evolutionist insofar as I strongly believe in biological determinism and most certainly procreation for spreading the gene pool. If gays have gay genes then this should be anti-evolutionary.
It is not a negative slur on such people, it is in my opinion that it is either God or Evolution (Hell, maybe both!!!) telling them they should not have children.
Children are clearly (again both religiously and evolutionary) the by-products of hetero-sexual sex acts, simple as that.
My argument augments both science and religion.
Yes, I am a Christian and if God gave us free will and naughty bits, a gaylord can easily sleep with a women (if aroused enough) and a lezza with a man.
However, I am also a Darwinian evolutionist insofar as I strongly believe in biological determinism and most certainly procreation for spreading the gene pool. If gays have gay genes then this should be anti-evolutionary.
It is not a negative slur on such people, it is in my opinion that it is either God or Evolution (Hell, maybe both!!!) telling them they should not have children.
Children are clearly (again both religiously and evolutionary) the by-products of hetero-sexual sex acts, simple as that.
Darwinism and religious beliefs are no match for pure biology.
It would be a different case if gay men and lesbians physically couldn't have children.
But we can.
Do you also think that straight couples who cannot conceive should be banned from IVF treatment and from adopting?
Evolution has precluded them from having kids too.
It would be a different case if gay men and lesbians physically couldn't have children.
But we can.
Do you also think that straight couples who cannot conceive should be banned from IVF treatment and from adopting?
Evolution has precluded them from having kids too.
SP, good point about jaffers etc. But I would never hinder progress in IVF. Lord Professor Winston is one of the greatest brains ever to live!!!
However, I can not detract that children are so obviously the by-product of hetero-sexual activity. Yes, a gaylord or lezza need only be straight for 5 minutes (if we are NOT going down the turkey baster route) to conceive naturally, but the whole process of primary care (legally 16 years) is a straight thing.
Also the DINKY capitalist system gays have will be damaged!!!!!
Regarding gays having gay children, I do confess I do not know enough about the subject to even contemplate a discussion.
But, my very amateur understanding of genetic makeup, will conclude that if a gay gene, chromosone, DNA, nucleus or whatever is present, THERE MUST BE a higher chance of passing this on. Just like the colour of hair, size of kids, diseases and ability to play sports. These are mere things selected at birth that we can not change (unless you follow an Eugenics programme!!!)
However, I can not detract that children are so obviously the by-product of hetero-sexual activity. Yes, a gaylord or lezza need only be straight for 5 minutes (if we are NOT going down the turkey baster route) to conceive naturally, but the whole process of primary care (legally 16 years) is a straight thing.
Also the DINKY capitalist system gays have will be damaged!!!!!
Regarding gays having gay children, I do confess I do not know enough about the subject to even contemplate a discussion.
But, my very amateur understanding of genetic makeup, will conclude that if a gay gene, chromosone, DNA, nucleus or whatever is present, THERE MUST BE a higher chance of passing this on. Just like the colour of hair, size of kids, diseases and ability to play sports. These are mere things selected at birth that we can not change (unless you follow an Eugenics programme!!!)
BB
No-one can temporarily suspend their sexuality for five minutes.
Sex and sexuality are different concepts.
An analogy - a Scot can visit London for weekend, adopt an East End (I have to avoid the word c0ckney here) and drink Smirnoff Ices...and everyone may think he's from Dagenham.
But he's still a Scot.
There has been little scientific study of the gay gene. However empirical evidence suggests that if there is a gay gene...it comes from straight couples.
Why?
Because absolutely every gay man and lesbian I've ever met have straight parents.
No-one can temporarily suspend their sexuality for five minutes.
Sex and sexuality are different concepts.
An analogy - a Scot can visit London for weekend, adopt an East End (I have to avoid the word c0ckney here) and drink Smirnoff Ices...and everyone may think he's from Dagenham.
But he's still a Scot.
There has been little scientific study of the gay gene. However empirical evidence suggests that if there is a gay gene...it comes from straight couples.
Why?
Because absolutely every gay man and lesbian I've ever met have straight parents.
As I said I really know very little about gene science.
On a related note however, it is totally acceptable to suggest being a gaylord is as natural as having blue eyes in the gay community right?
Gay sex can be forced (i.e prison, rape, and I suppose the prostitution market) but to be a proper one, is just the way you are in my humble opinion.
On a related note however, it is totally acceptable to suggest being a gaylord is as natural as having blue eyes in the gay community right?
Gay sex can be forced (i.e prison, rape, and I suppose the prostitution market) but to be a proper one, is just the way you are in my humble opinion.
My opinion on this purely my opinion, but I think people are born gay, straight or bisexual.
You have men who are as straight as Graeme Souness, or as gay as Graham Norton, but in between you have many shades of grey.
So in that sense, I think it's fair to say that it's as natural (and unchangeable) as eye colour.
You have men who are as straight as Graeme Souness, or as gay as Graham Norton, but in between you have many shades of grey.
So in that sense, I think it's fair to say that it's as natural (and unchangeable) as eye colour.
I've read the article and one thing no one has picked up yet is this - Unless the Child Support Agency employ a Psychic, then how did they know who the father was, unless the mother(s) applied for financial help and provided them with his details. So much for doing them a favour with what he thought would be no strings attached.
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I agree with your statement my partner has been hounded over the past years by an organisation that professes to do good but has made life hell, and all because of a lie. My partner was a fall guy to took the rap for someone else similar to the McCanns who are unable to prove their innocence. We've learnt our lesson, never trust those bent fanatics, there is some evil amongst us that needs to be destroyed..
What a lovely bunch you all are. It never ceases to amaze me just how backwards the human race can be.
I would rather be brought up by a bunch of gays than you ignorant hate-inciting animals.
These lesbians are clearly bitches in going back on their word but hey, there are a lot of bitches in this world and guess what, they're not all lesbians.
I would rather be brought up by a bunch of gays than you ignorant hate-inciting animals.
These lesbians are clearly bitches in going back on their word but hey, there are a lot of bitches in this world and guess what, they're not all lesbians.
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