What's Wrong With The Saucepans These Days?

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-68399392

When I was their age I never had time to be uncle! To busy working, learning and trying to get a decent enough job to have a decent enough life. Now they all seem to be claiming to have one of the many "syndromes" that give them an excuse to play games and surf twitface all day! Gawd elp us if we ever have to defend the nation again.

[youngmafbog]

It's my belief that if you put things out there then it will attract followers.  And that is what has happened here.  Mental Health (in a way quite rightly) has been talked about, the problem is though people who have problems or are easily led on SM will pick on this and attribute their problems to it.

CAMH.s are really struggling with this now and are deluged with kids with supposed mental health. The big issue they have now is sorting the wheat from the chaff and ensuring those will real issues dont slip through the net.

The good things is the majority still are strong and will defend the nation, which sadly will be in the near future I suspect.

[Untitled]

i suspect it is long covid. while vaccination reduces death there is evidence that repeated infections with covid make long term health problems far more likely including damage to the blood-brain barrier and long-term respiratory problems 

young people are going to catch covid again and again and again and more and more of them will develop long term health problems as a result. i do not know what the solution is but i would suggest that a bit of empathy might be more useful than comparing them to yourself as you were many many long decades ago

[piggynose]

What type of saucepans? Aluminium or stainless steel?

[Untitled]

young people also have a much less hopeful future ahead of them than young people in the 60s/70s did... many western economies have stagnated over the past decade, serious shortages of affordable housing, obvious evidence of climate crisis etc... many young people are in positions where they cannot save because cost of living is so high... even if they have jobs that pay decently.

it isn't surprising that so many report mental health problems. the situation for them is not very hopeful looking ahead. 

[Untitled]

"Gawd elp us if we ever have to defend the nation again."

what exactly do you expect young people to defend? 

[youngmafbog]

Triwall piggy (e.g. both) 🤣

[ToraToraTora]

09:46, clarify please.

[lankeela]

I assume TTT is talking about younger saucpans who I agree seem to have far more 'mental health problems' than when I was a sprog.  We didn't even know what it meant back then and would get a slap if we acted up in the supermarket or didn't want to go to school.  People are too quick to diagnose and doctors seem to dish out the ritalyn like smarties.  Now I see schools are being told to put it on the curriculum - opening the flood gates for even more 'problems' to emerge.  

[Untitled]

i mean that if you want young people to defend the country you'll either have to conscript them or give them a stake in society to defend. i think the latter is a better idea. 

[ToraToraTora]

untitled: " mean that if you want young people to defend the country you'll either have to conscript them or give them a stake in society to defend. i think the latter is a better idea. " - ...and there we see the left wing thinking. You cannot give someone a stake in society, they must take it and establish it by their contribution to society. They do that by doing what lot of us did by working and prospering, creating wealth for the nation and paying our share for the life and infrastructure the state gives us.

[youngmafbog]

//and there we see the left wing thinking.//

Thats more like communism TTT, most lefty's I know dont think like that.

[naomi24]

Untitled, what does 'give them a stake in society' mean?  What do you want to give them?

[youngmafbog]

A collective ownership of property andorganization of labour for the common advantage of all members no doubt.

[Untitled]

affordable housing and good public services 

i am not a communist youngmafbog... i understand what communism is better than you do.

[Untitled]

"You cannot give someone a stake in society, they must take it and establish it by their contribution to society."
 

untrue, those are all things that proceed from opportunity. education today is worth less than it was due to ruthless expansion of higher education... this not the fault of young people but they are the people harmed by it. house prices today are something like eight times average earnings and cost of living is extremely high... in the past it was something like two or three times average earnings and life was cheaper. none of this is the fault of young people... all of it is a result of government policy. 
 

if you want young people to care more about this country then they're going to need reasons to do it... nobody has ever "created wealth for the country" out of the goodness of their heart... they did it because they could and were afforded the chance to do so (and good for them). you cannot however express contempt for younger generations and ignore their problems and then complain that they are not inclined to defend the country in some hypothetical scenario

[davebro3]

// I suspect it is long covid.//

Blow me! I thought it must be Brexit?

[youngmafbog]

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck then it is a duck.

[douglas9401]

There will be a short delay in recruiting yoof to the navy while somebody finds the big key to make the aircraft carriers go.

[Untitled]

that only works if you know what a duck is youngmafbog. you do not understand what a communist is. if you had bothered to read anything at all by communist writers you would not say so.