Norways Massacre

[chi-chi66]

I'm going to have to watch this again somehow, had one eye on it. the other on AB.

Has anyone watched this through..what are you're thoughts?

[ladybirder]

What channel was it on? If I can +1 it I'll watch it now.

[DTCwordfan]

My feelings expressed by a Norwegian of some note.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJi_rb9D8I4

[Philtaz]

What was shocking was the woefully inept response from their elite police unit, Delta Force.

It's no exaggeration to say that their efforts in getting to the island were of Keystone cops proprtions, unfortunately to the cost of many more lives than ought to have been lost.

[Philtaz]

ladybirder, here's a link to it:

[ladybirder]

Bless you Phil, thanks. X

[chi-chi66]

sorry ladybirder, I was on other AB..bbc2 doe'snt have a +1. x

Thanks DT and Philtaz...will watch those.

I believe he has been found 'sane' ..I heard somewhere...maybe he will get a
punishment that fits the crime. xx

[ladybirder]

Just finished watching it. Agree about the Keystone cops, that's what came into my mind, especially when the boat sank. All very sad and shocking, so many lives changed forever.

[Philtaz]

Indeed ladybirder, the Keystone cops analogy wasn't meant to trivialise the horror but their failings were comparable and proved dreadfully catastrophic, IMHO.

[Ann]

My husband and I said exactly the same Philtaz (Keystone cops) when their boat sank because they were too heavy for it and had to be rescued as it was sinking. Amusing yes, but certainly not amusing for the poor students who lost their lives through their inept actions, the Police have a lot to answer for.

[puternut]

Might be a bit late in telling you all but it is repeated tonight on BBC2 23:20

[baza]

just caught a bit of news on the radio and im sue they said the perp has pleaded NOT guilty.

[baza]

should read sure, must learn to type.

[chrissa1]

I've got the programme recorded so yet to see it but weren't their Police Force dealing with the bomb blast, so that delayed them? Norway is such a peaceful country and have little or no experience in terrorism.

[DTCwordfan]

that is true - and he gave a nazi salute too....all about self-attention. Shame that Norway doesn't have the death penalty and their murder max is, I think, only 16 years. Guess they could individualise the charges and make the sentences back-to-back as they would in the USA - he would be facing some 1200 years that way.

[starrs]

baza, on Sky News this morning I think they said he will say he was acting in self defence?????? thus he is not guilty.

The word psycho doesn't do him justice.

[emmie]

i didn't watch it, but had seen enough on the news when it first happened. Nut job perhaps, but don't expect this to be the last. There are lots of people like him around, not just in Norway, and i reckon that there will be more of the same in the not too distant future. He will get whatever the maximum sentence is presumably, but if that is only 16 years in Norway they will have to move the goalposts and put him away for good, whether that is prison or a maximum security hospital.

[DTCwordfan]

There are a couple of ways they can hold him as they don't have life imprisonment. I quote.

In 2008, to fulfill its requirements under the Rome Statute, Norway created a new maximal penalty of 30 years for crimes against humanity.

There is also an indeterminate penalty, called "containment" (Norwegian: forvaring), is set at 21 years imprisonment, and the prisoner is required to serve at least 10 years before becoming eligible for parole.

If the prisoner is still considered dangerous after serving the original sentence, the prisoner can receive up to five years additional containment. If the additional time is served, and the offender is still considered dangerous, a prisoner can continue to receive up to five years additional containment, and this, in theory, could result in actual life imprisonment.

"Containment" is used when the prisoner is deemed a danger to society and there is a great chance of committing violent crimes in the future.[

However, the offender can be paroled or released at any time if it is determined that the offender is no longer a danger to society.

So now we know.

[emmie]

I reckon he will always be a danger to society, so it's unlikely he will get out wherever he is incarcerated.