What Right Have These Charlatans Got To "grill" The Security Services?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24847399
What are they looking for? Most of them are too dim to even get away with fiddling their exes. They need no qualifications to do the job and yet they think they have a "right" to quiz the people attempting to keep us safe from those that would harm us due mainly to the opportunities given to them by these self serving non entities. It's like 5 year olds grilling the teacher for not havig jelly on the menu today.

[Zeuhl]

The 'charlatans' are our elected representatives

The security services are employed (and paid for) by us

Assuming they should be answerable to someone, who else would you suggest?

Prince Charles perhaps?
Simon Cowell?
John le Carré

Or some other anonymous ex Public School Boy safely behind closed doors?

[ichkeria]

As Zeuhl says: maybe Russell Brand perhaps?

[ToraToraTora]

I would suggest leaving them to do their jobs rather than have to answer to a load of right on liberal cobblers when they are basically trying to fight those that would terrorise us. They should be answerable to those they always have been answerable to. Not a bunch of failed politicians with their own agendas.

[Zeuhl]

^
bravo ichkeria

Now that WOULD be worth watching lol

[youngmafbog]

I should imagine the Security services will use it more as a PR event.

Lets face it they can run rings round a group of self righteous unqualified persons.

Sometimes you have to do things like this just to appease the right-on liberals (aka The Guardian Readers) who dont have much of a clue about the real world and how it really works (ie it does not fit in their narrow minded ideology) and i dont suppose coffee shops in Islington are top of the Terrorist list !

[ToraToraTora]

last time I had blocked drains, I had some guys come around and no doubt had to get seriously up to their necks in sh1te. Guess what? I was grateful when they cleared it and I really didn't care how they did it! Capiesch?

[Zeuhl]

/I would suggest leaving them to do their jobs/

and how do you know they are without oversight?

/a load of right on liberal cobblers/

ahaa

your agenda is showing again T3

/basically trying to fight those that would terrorise us./

that is only your assumption

/They should be answerable to those they always have been answerable to/

and who precisely is that T3? Pray tell

would it be ok with you if it was the Prime Minister of the day? i suppose not, that's the Chief Charlatan to you

[Zeuhl]

/who dont have much of a clue about the real world /

here's a tip for you ymb

those who refer to the 'Real World' (sic) and imply that they are somehow in it and others they disapprove of are somehow not

just make themselves look like narrow minded Joy-sticks!

[Zeuhl]

/they cleared it and I really didn't care how they did it! Capiesch?/

They did the same for an old lady in our road T3

Only trouble was, while they were fixing the drains one of them sneaked upstairs and stole her savings

[ToraToraTora]

Touched a nerve there YMB

[LazyGun]

@3T The security and intelligence services are under civil jurisdiction. Of course there should be oversight, and that oversight comes in the form of this committee. Even then, there are some who argue, with some justification that the relationship is too cosy, that the intelligence services are left unchallenged by the committee- especially in the wake of revelations about what the NSA and GCHQ have been getting up too.


They absolutely have the right. What qualifications do you imagine is needed to understand the work of the intelligence services? The idea that you have that the intelligence services should just be allowed to go ahead and do whatever the hell they feel like without any oversight or accountability at all is staggeringly stupid.

[Zeuhl]

Yes

my rationality and reasoning nerve

btw T3

Trying to look cool by using Italian-American slang might work better if you actually knew how to spell Capisce

[dr b]

"No accountability" worked really well for the KGB and Stasi; why wouldn't Western democracies want that sort of system as well?

[FredPuli43]

Well, it's a day out, isn't it ?

And it gives the security services a bit of PR, too.

[ToraToraTora]

It's why we are always getting the sh1te with the EU, we try to obey the rules, no one else does. look how far it's got us.

[Sqad]

My sympathies are with T3.

If, by whatever means, they provide a satisfactory umbrella for the UK, then so be it.

[Sqad]

LOL...that should read " umbrella of safety."

[jake-the-peg]

Now be nice guys

T3 is scared

I can hear his knees knocking from here

' Please Mr policeman do whatever you want - just keep me safe from those nasty terrorists'

'We won't question you or what you do - we won't ask you to stick to the law

Take my wife, my daughter, anything -SAVE ME! '

[jake-the-peg]

Hey Sqad

Got any neighbours over ther that remember living under Franco?

I'd be interested to hear what they have to say about giving security forces a free hand to use 'whatever means'