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Eu To Offer Africa Deals To Take Back Migrants
//European leaders will promise a trust fund worth €1.8bn if African countries do more to help the refugee and migrant crisis.//
Is money the answer?
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Is money the answer?
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They're sending mixed messages. One moment the welcome mat is out, the next they don't want them and are kicking them out. Strange carry on. They can't possibly be as inept as they appear, can they?
Anyway, as baz says, this 2billion will, like as not, go down the same plughole as all the other trillions.
Anyway, as baz says, this 2billion will, like as not, go down the same plughole as all the other trillions.
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You cannot make the poor richer by making the rich poorer. It’s been tried and it simply does not work.
"So you'd rather spend the money on building a big wall than "send them back"
No. I’d spend the money on building a wall (and digging a ditch) AND send them back. The two are not mutually exclusive. It is known where the last non-EU port of call was for a majority of the nomads and some of £2bn can be spent sending them back there.
Any money given to “Africa” will be salted away by corrupt African leaders. Any migrants who are returned there (with my guess at the total, to the nearest whole number, being nil) will simply return. They don’t want to live in Africa, however many Mercedes cars their leaders may have. It will be, as usual, taxpayers’ money down the drain.
Can they be as inept as they appear? They can be far more so. Frau Merkel is often billed as one of the shrewdest operators in the EU. Then she says that Germany welcomes 800,000 newcomers. Strangely enough, blessed with that news, they all turn up at once. Perhaps the residents of this German village:
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should be asked how “ept” their leader is.
"So you'd rather spend the money on building a big wall than "send them back"
No. I’d spend the money on building a wall (and digging a ditch) AND send them back. The two are not mutually exclusive. It is known where the last non-EU port of call was for a majority of the nomads and some of £2bn can be spent sending them back there.
Any money given to “Africa” will be salted away by corrupt African leaders. Any migrants who are returned there (with my guess at the total, to the nearest whole number, being nil) will simply return. They don’t want to live in Africa, however many Mercedes cars their leaders may have. It will be, as usual, taxpayers’ money down the drain.
Can they be as inept as they appear? They can be far more so. Frau Merkel is often billed as one of the shrewdest operators in the EU. Then she says that Germany welcomes 800,000 newcomers. Strangely enough, blessed with that news, they all turn up at once. Perhaps the residents of this German village:
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should be asked how “ept” their leader is.
AOG - //If they are African then send them back to Africa, why spend any more money on Africa? //
I would suggest that is an answer as simplistic as the issue is complex.
People migrate for a wide variety of reasons, and a lot of them are for safety and survival, so the notion of simply 'sending them back' hints at a position that is somewhat less than one based on simple compassion and an ability and willingness to help other human beings.
I would suggest that is an answer as simplistic as the issue is complex.
People migrate for a wide variety of reasons, and a lot of them are for safety and survival, so the notion of simply 'sending them back' hints at a position that is somewhat less than one based on simple compassion and an ability and willingness to help other human beings.
Dont know about shrewd, but one thing I do know damn well, is shes dangerous to the future security , well being and existance of our country..."Clear and Present Danger" springs to mind.
she is no less a threat to this country than Hitler was, and if you believe otherwise youre living in a little bubble world full of delusion instead of air !
she is no less a threat to this country than Hitler was, and if you believe otherwise youre living in a little bubble world full of delusion instead of air !
I’m afraid you are talking to a brick wall.
It has been shown almost without doubt that virtually all those arriving in the EU from Turkey arrived from a place where they were safe and where their survival was not compromised. The small boy whose picture was shown after his body was washed up on a Greek beach (and whose death was said to be a “game changer” in the crisis, and about which people still harp on) had actually lived in Turkey for about three years. His father had a job, they lived in a house. Not being satisfied with that, his father put the family in a rubber boat to cross to Greece. Tragic, yes. But a “game changer”? Not if you look at the facts it isn't.
There are plenty of places Africans and those from the Middle East can go to for safety. But safety is not their aim. They don’t like it where they are. They want to live in Europe. And the simple message that should be conveyed to them is that they can’t. Compassion needs to be reserved for those already here - people like those in the German village I highlighted. There is no reason why their lives should be disrupted beyond belief so that a few chancers can arrive and take advantage of their hospitality and the facilities that they have all worked hard to secure.
Make no mistake, this invasion is a disaster of epic proportions for the people already here and still politicians fret about how to deal with the arrivals instead of ensuring they do not arrive. They do so at their peril for eventually (long after it’s too late, unfortunately) the worm will turn.
It has been shown almost without doubt that virtually all those arriving in the EU from Turkey arrived from a place where they were safe and where their survival was not compromised. The small boy whose picture was shown after his body was washed up on a Greek beach (and whose death was said to be a “game changer” in the crisis, and about which people still harp on) had actually lived in Turkey for about three years. His father had a job, they lived in a house. Not being satisfied with that, his father put the family in a rubber boat to cross to Greece. Tragic, yes. But a “game changer”? Not if you look at the facts it isn't.
There are plenty of places Africans and those from the Middle East can go to for safety. But safety is not their aim. They don’t like it where they are. They want to live in Europe. And the simple message that should be conveyed to them is that they can’t. Compassion needs to be reserved for those already here - people like those in the German village I highlighted. There is no reason why their lives should be disrupted beyond belief so that a few chancers can arrive and take advantage of their hospitality and the facilities that they have all worked hard to secure.
Make no mistake, this invasion is a disaster of epic proportions for the people already here and still politicians fret about how to deal with the arrivals instead of ensuring they do not arrive. They do so at their peril for eventually (long after it’s too late, unfortunately) the worm will turn.
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