Gunpowder

[Eleena]

Looking forward to this tonight! Three parts. BBC1 .. 9.10pm.

[hereIam]

I read about it, but apparently the torture and deaths scenes are very graphic and that's put me off a bit.

[Tilly2]

I have no wish to see people being eviscerated on my television screen. I won't be watching.

[chrissa1]

But, that’s what it was, really like!! I will be watching.

[Tilly2]

I'm sure it will be excellent but I don't like to watch torture and subjugation.

[murraymints]

me neither Tilly... :0(

[Old_Geezer]

I doubt that they'll have it on at the pub.

[Old_Geezer]

No they didn't.

[Barsel]

I watched it although the torture scenes were horrible, it's what they did back then. So, I turned away then carried on watching.

[Peter Pedant]

James I was very keen on question ordinary and extraordinary and personally authorised it for Fawkes

F was also incarcerated in Little Ease - which flooded and you couldnt stand up straight in

John Gerard ( jesuit ) also described being tortured by Topcliffe - hoary in evil and a beard that smelt of puke

and Little John ( Nicholas Owen) the great priest hole maker ( examples still there at baddesley clinton) died helping the police with their inquiries ( hernia popped )

There was a good reworking twenty y ago
the agent says to the minister
" your Lordship - we caught the conspirators but didnt realise that some were armed so we returned fire and killed some of them"
Minister" I am not asking you why you killed some of them. I am asking you why you didnt kill all of them."

[vetuste_ennemi]

I like the torture bit. Wasn't it banned in England at some time in the 16th century? And wasn't there a bit of extraordinary rendition to send someone or other (possibly a noble) to a jurisdiction which allowed it (Scotland?).

Can't remember the guy being sent north to be water-boarded with prejudice. Or why. Guess they got the correct answer, though.

[Jackdaw33]

Not sure about the Gunpowder plotters but the traitors' death had by that time become something of a dead letter. When the horrific scenes at the execution of the Babington plotters in 1586 were reported to Queen Elizabeth I she ordered that in future such people should be hanged 'until death shall intervene' before any mutilation was carried out.

[vetuste_ennemi]

17th.

[Eleena]

I didn't think the torture scenes would be as graphic as they were, I turned my head away. How barbaric the punishments were, "pressing" I'd never realised existed as torture. Looking more in to pressing as a means of torture, I found St. Margaret Clitheroe was pressed whilst with child.

[Eleena]

https://didoisux.wordpress.com/2013/02/01/death-by-crushing-peine-forte-et-dure/

[Zacs-Master]

I thought it was excellent. Great acting and historically interesting. I noticed Kit has co written and produced the show. Clever lad and handsome. The b@#t@£*. ;x)

[Eleena]

Ha ha!

[mikey4444]

I was put off by exactly the same thing.

I am a bit squeamish about violence at the best of times, so I won't be watching either.

[Eleena]

It's very good Mikey, you're missing out. I just looked away.

[ummmm]

I liked it and didn't find the torture scenes too difficult to watch. Scenes like that are easier to detach from than violent fist fights accompanied by sound affects.

[mikey4444]

The clip does look promising....perhaps I will give it a go.