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Mot Renewal In Spain
The MoT on our UK car runs out in 10 days....unforseen circumstances meant we had to stay longer than planned.....read many forums, opinions, advice....
From "get an ITV and drive back with a pre-booked MOT test in UK on arrival," to "have car transported there and back by specialized service..."
Do you have any further advice on legalities of driving back with tax disk expired? How many days grace period would we have?
Thanks for any further information!
From "get an ITV and drive back with a pre-booked MOT test in UK on arrival," to "have car transported there and back by specialized service..."
Do you have any further advice on legalities of driving back with tax disk expired? How many days grace period would we have?
Thanks for any further information!
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You are cutting things very fine, SeaStar, because today is the 22nd. (nearly the 23rd.); next Monday is a Bank Holiday and the 30th. is a week tomorrow. That leaves you about two days in which to get back, get your MOT done and your tax disc obtained. And Prudie is correct about leeway, there is none legaly.
Your post seems designed to confuse us!
Are you referring to the MoT (which the main part of your post refers to), to the vehicle tax (which suddenly appears towards the end of your post) or to both?
You can renew the tax online if you've got the reference number number from the renewal letter. (Have you got it? Can someone go to your house to find the letter and email/text the number to you?). You can also renew the tax online with the number on your V5C [= 'log book']. (Did you take it with you? Can someone go to your house to find it?):
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Staying with the tax for the moment, there are NO 'grace days' for LATE payment. However if you pay online (BEFORE the tax runs out) there's a 14-day grace period (from the expiry of the old disc) before you need to DISPLAY your new disc. In practice you could probably get away with longer since the police (and others) now largely rely upon a computer database, rather than on the actual display of a physical disc, for checking that a vehicle is taxed. (So much so that tax disks will cease to be used from 1st October anyway).
Further, failure to display a tax disc is a separate (and lesser) offence that failing to pay for one, so it wouldn't be a 'big issue' if you were unlucky enough to get caught. (However getting someone to forward the new disc from your home, to your address in Spain, would still be sensible if time allows).
The MoT rules, however, are far stricter. You can't drive a vehicle without a valid MoT certificate (where one is required by law) on UK roads unless it's being driven directly to an MoT test centre, so the advice to arrange a test close to your port of arrival seems good to me.
Of course the two sets of rules overlap in that you can't tax your car without a valid MoT. However you can tax your car right up until the very last day of the current MoT's validity (and the subsequent expiry of the MoT doesn't then invalidate the tax) so you've still got ten days to sort the tax out.
Are you referring to the MoT (which the main part of your post refers to), to the vehicle tax (which suddenly appears towards the end of your post) or to both?
You can renew the tax online if you've got the reference number number from the renewal letter. (Have you got it? Can someone go to your house to find the letter and email/text the number to you?). You can also renew the tax online with the number on your V5C [= 'log book']. (Did you take it with you? Can someone go to your house to find it?):
https:/
Staying with the tax for the moment, there are NO 'grace days' for LATE payment. However if you pay online (BEFORE the tax runs out) there's a 14-day grace period (from the expiry of the old disc) before you need to DISPLAY your new disc. In practice you could probably get away with longer since the police (and others) now largely rely upon a computer database, rather than on the actual display of a physical disc, for checking that a vehicle is taxed. (So much so that tax disks will cease to be used from 1st October anyway).
Further, failure to display a tax disc is a separate (and lesser) offence that failing to pay for one, so it wouldn't be a 'big issue' if you were unlucky enough to get caught. (However getting someone to forward the new disc from your home, to your address in Spain, would still be sensible if time allows).
The MoT rules, however, are far stricter. You can't drive a vehicle without a valid MoT certificate (where one is required by law) on UK roads unless it's being driven directly to an MoT test centre, so the advice to arrange a test close to your port of arrival seems good to me.
Of course the two sets of rules overlap in that you can't tax your car without a valid MoT. However you can tax your car right up until the very last day of the current MoT's validity (and the subsequent expiry of the MoT doesn't then invalidate the tax) so you've still got ten days to sort the tax out.
>>>If your MOT expires it usually invalidates your Insurance
WRONG! (At least in part, anyway!)
Insurers aren't allowed to wholly invalidate the statutory '3rd party' cover of their policies because a vehicle doesn't have a valid MoT. (i.e. if you cause damage to another vehicle or injure someone, the insurer MUST still pay out). So you CAN'T be prosecuted for driving without insurance.
However, depending upon the wording of the policy, the insurer MIGHT then be able to take civil action against the driver to recover the money that the law has required them to pay out.
WRONG! (At least in part, anyway!)
Insurers aren't allowed to wholly invalidate the statutory '3rd party' cover of their policies because a vehicle doesn't have a valid MoT. (i.e. if you cause damage to another vehicle or injure someone, the insurer MUST still pay out). So you CAN'T be prosecuted for driving without insurance.
However, depending upon the wording of the policy, the insurer MIGHT then be able to take civil action against the driver to recover the money that the law has required them to pay out.
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Lack of MOT does not mean you are not insured it means that they will use it as an excuse to not pay out. I have never seen and insurer mention MOT before. What if it was stolen off your drive way when it is out of MOT, I don;t beleive it. Can you find the doc on line and point me at the clause. Which company??
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Tora, This is how I see it. S.148 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 effectively states that an insurance condition such as a vehicle's road worthiness has no effect so far as the validity of insurance cover is concerned I,e. you can't be prosecuted for no insurance. However, the requirement to hold a driving licence is contained in s.151, and was put there specifically so that a no insurance offence could be prosecuted at the same time. OK, in both s.148 and s.151, the insurer must still meet any TP claim but also retains the right to recover from the 'insured'.
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