The Deaths In Doncaster

[TWR]

These young people that Died in Doncaster last week, although not confirmed I would think speed has a lot to do with it! why can't the law make it legal for the young owners under 25 have their cars restricted to a set speed, a speed retarder that is "Sealed" on the fuel system of the car, It is done with HGVs & it can be done with cars, what do you think?

[-Talbot-]

oops put it on the wrong thread.


The in-tele-box sends us the following information:


The time of day or night you drive
The speed you drive at on different sorts of road
If you brake or accelerate sharply
If you take breaks on long journeys
Your motorway miles
Your total mileage
The total number of journeys you make

[TWR]

VHG, If your speed is controlled, you can control the car, If you do not have the Experience, You can not control the car or the speed.

[ummmm]

VHG....and my dad went through the windscreen in a non speeding accident on a side street. This was before the seat belt laws were introduced.

He was very lucky he didn't die.

[-Talbot-]

Can you address my post @ 08:10 Fri 21st Nov 2014 TWR?

[TWR]

Yes, you are right Talbot, RE/ 30/40, they are looking & hoping there are CCTVs in the area regards that Accident, but the investigation will prove one way or the other.

[VHG]

>>>VHG, If your speed is controlled, you can control the car,

You can still kill yourself or other passengers going at 30mph.

It is NOT all about speed. For many young people it is all about "bravado" and feeling you are invincible.

[TWR]

Regards the HGV, Were you by chance on the A75 Gretna to Dumfries? a lot of the Irish Trucks use that road & they have their own speed limit? Fast.

[wolf63]

I haven't got my glasses on and am not awake yet so I may have missed it if already mentioned.

Surely with a speed restricter, such as in the on an HGV, controls the vehicle and you are actually talking about controlling the speed a person wants to travel at on any vehicle they may wish to drive.

[TWR]

Think about the last part of you post VHG! Invincible / BRAVADO

[TWR]

Wolf, I am referring to young Drivers that has not long passed their test, no experience, high powered cars that they can not handle showing off, as someone has just said, Invincible, Bravado.

[Retrochic]

If they are going to restrict young peoples cars then they should restrict over 75 year olds cars so they can't drive in rush hour or after dark., or on the M25 at any time. You can't put all young drivers in the same catagory just as you can't put any age of drivers. At 21 years of age (a long time ago) my brother was driving an HGV in the armed forces -would you expect him to jump out of his 40 tonner and get into his restricted car?

[vulcan42]

It isn't always about speed, it's the inability to control a car at speed, If it was just speed there wouldn't be any formula 1 racing. Youngsters are not taught to drive but to pass a driving test, where I live they are taught on the same roads as where they take the test. Until the training and testing becomes more relevant to todays conditions and includes night, skid pan and motorway driving, there will not be a reduction in deaths on the road.

[TWR]

Before the post gets out of context, ( And that's the way it's going) we are talking about Young Drivers getting killed, not 70+ Drivers on the M25, 21 year old getting out of an Army Wagon ( By the way! that 21 year old has ben trained to have the sense to driver that 40 tonne wagon before he gets into his / her car.

[Retrochic]

TWR I find your original post insensitive. There are five families in mourning over their dead children and you basically are saying it was all the children s fault for driving erratically (and you don't know that, people have died in crashes going 20 miles an hour) Mmmmmm.

[ivor4781]

theres no hill there just very slight gradient

[TWR]

Is there any where in my Comment that Indicates that I was saying it was their fault Retro? you pick up local papers weekly & Read what has happened to someone's Son / Daughter, I have seen, like others that use this site the carnage that is caused by young drivers & Speed, I have a car that is capable of 150 mph, Do I do the speed? why should I? I have nothing to Prove but have the Experience to do it If I am daft enough to try.

[ummmm]

Older drivers crash as well.

[TWR]

Depending on the Gradient, & depending if the HGV Is Loaded, the load can push the momentum of the HGV Ivor, regards the Speed, as said HGVs in the UK are Limited or should be Limited to 56MPH, that can increase on the likes of Shap, Between Lancaster M6 North / South, there is an area Nr the A71 Nr Lesmahagow Northbound M74, the HGV can, if the driver is stupid enough to over run the Limiter to a speed in excess of 80MPH +, this is where the load pushes the HGV.

[Baldric]

Thought you had a 318 TWR?

[TWR]

That car belonged to Tops Baldric, he was from Ireland, I have a 328! Baldric