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Why Do They Travel At 48Mph
M6 Manchester and M5 Worcester 50mph average speed areas. Why do some people continue to drive at below the 50mph in the middle lanes blocking the outside lane. keeping pace with the trucks in the slow " granny lane" holding people up who don't mind going a bit faster YOU CAN GO 54 YOU CRETTINS without getting a ticket. Rant Over
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Motorists are not usually prosecuted if they are caught speeding by an enforcement camera if they are going less than 10%+2 mph over the posted limit but this rule, guidance, convention or whatever you like to call it may not be universally adopted.
If you are caught between 10%+2mph and10%+9mph above the limit you can apply to take a speed awareness course.
Motorists are not usually prosecuted if they are caught speeding by an enforcement camera if they are going less than 10%+2 mph over the posted limit but this rule, guidance, convention or whatever you like to call it may not be universally adopted.
If you are caught between 10%+2mph and10%+9mph above the limit you can apply to take a speed awareness course.
You cannot apply. It has to be offered.
Ther is no automatic right to a course and if it is not offered you have no right to appeal. They are not offered at all in Scotland but are fairly universal across England and Wales. They will not be offered if there has been a delay in establishing who the driver was (if, say, the vehicle is a lease or hire car). If the alleged offence was committed more than about four months previously no SAC offer is made because insufficient time might remain before the offence "times out" at six months. (The driver could ignore the offer - which he has 28 days to accept - and there may be insufficient time left to lay the information before a court to prosecute). They will also not be offered if the driver has nine or more points on his licence.
Ther is no automatic right to a course and if it is not offered you have no right to appeal. They are not offered at all in Scotland but are fairly universal across England and Wales. They will not be offered if there has been a delay in establishing who the driver was (if, say, the vehicle is a lease or hire car). If the alleged offence was committed more than about four months previously no SAC offer is made because insufficient time might remain before the offence "times out" at six months. (The driver could ignore the offer - which he has 28 days to accept - and there may be insufficient time left to lay the information before a court to prosecute). They will also not be offered if the driver has nine or more points on his licence.
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Bear in mind that the 5% is offered to accommodate motorists whose speedometers are not perfectly accurate. You may be one of those motorists! So taking 5% when your speedo is already 5% out could put you in trouble.
As for why people don't change lanes - I think some are confused on motorways by the difference between a long set of roadworks and a long set of variable limit signs on a smart motorway, the former of which you can change lanes in, the latter of which you're not supposed to ...
> YOU CAN GO 54 YOU CRETTINS
Turns out you can go 57 ...
As for why people don't change lanes - I think some are confused on motorways by the difference between a long set of roadworks and a long set of variable limit signs on a smart motorway, the former of which you can change lanes in, the latter of which you're not supposed to ...
> YOU CAN GO 54 YOU CRETTINS
Turns out you can go 57 ...
“Turns out you can go 57 ...”
You can only go 56 actually. Enforcement (under these guidelines) begins at 57mph in a 50mph limit.
“Bear in mind that the 5% is offered to accommodate motorists whose speedometers are not perfectly accurate.”
The leeway (which is actually 10% + 2mph) is not there to accommodate motorists with inaccurate speedos. By law speedometers must not under record (i.e. they must not indicate that you are travelling slower than you actually are). But they can over record by up to 10%. So somebody with a speedo with the maximum inaccuracy will be travelling at a little under 45.5mph when their speedo shows 50mph. Thus an inaccurate speedometer is not an excuse for speeding.
The leeway is allowed to reduce the number of possibly frivolous defences which may be mounted on the basis of equipment inaccuracy or device misoperation. It is to secure greater certainty of a conviction when cases are contested on the basis of the speed alleged. (It is more difficult to argue that you were not exceeding the limit by more than 10% than it is to argue you were not exceeding it by 1mph). But it is guidance for police officers and camera operators, not for drivers and whilst it is generally followed it cannot be relied upon to be followed in every case.
You can only go 56 actually. Enforcement (under these guidelines) begins at 57mph in a 50mph limit.
“Bear in mind that the 5% is offered to accommodate motorists whose speedometers are not perfectly accurate.”
The leeway (which is actually 10% + 2mph) is not there to accommodate motorists with inaccurate speedos. By law speedometers must not under record (i.e. they must not indicate that you are travelling slower than you actually are). But they can over record by up to 10%. So somebody with a speedo with the maximum inaccuracy will be travelling at a little under 45.5mph when their speedo shows 50mph. Thus an inaccurate speedometer is not an excuse for speeding.
The leeway is allowed to reduce the number of possibly frivolous defences which may be mounted on the basis of equipment inaccuracy or device misoperation. It is to secure greater certainty of a conviction when cases are contested on the basis of the speed alleged. (It is more difficult to argue that you were not exceeding the limit by more than 10% than it is to argue you were not exceeding it by 1mph). But it is guidance for police officers and camera operators, not for drivers and whilst it is generally followed it cannot be relied upon to be followed in every case.
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