Scrap Dangerous Motorway Hard Shoulder Plans, Mps Warn

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36664116

I am not sure if this has been debated yesterday. I heard about it on my personal radio when I was on the train.

If the MP's manage to put the kibosh on this, then they will have done something worthwhile this week. Bloody madness !

[naomi24]

I'm sure this isn't the first time it's been suggested. I seem to remember a similar plan from years ago. It was a stupid idea then and it's a stupid idea now.

[Old_Geezer]

I saw the article yesterday. Don't think it's been debated here yet. I'm most unkeen on using hard shoulder as a normal lane in peak times. The idea of having stretches permanently bereft of a hard shoulder just to save money, sounds ridiculous. Where are folk to stop in emergencies ? How do emergency vehicles get by ? Whatever happened to "safety first" or "if even only one life gets saved ..." ? Who are these folk that make such suggestions and how how are they let into a position to make them ?

[mikey4444]

OG...its sheer bloody madness !

[Baldric]

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1292491.html

[mikey4444]

Thanks Baldric.....I knew we had debated it before but forgot it was my thread!

[Baldric]

Earlier bit here

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Motoring/Question835101.html

[Old_Geezer]

Those links are from years back. Issue seems to be rearing it's head again.

[mikey4444]

OG....I think that this new problem is that there are now plans to increase this lunacy to hundreds of miles of hard shoulder in England into permanent lanes, known as "all-lane running", to expand capacity.

The lunatics are trying to take over the asylum.

[Baldric]

Did the 'Earlier bit here' give you a clue OG?

[ToraToraTora]

yep completely radio, needs to be stopped.

[TWR]

The most "Dangerous lane on the Motorway" more accidents / fatalities are on the hard should, even persons getting drawn out of their cars by by opening them by passing HGVs & cars not pulling over far enough from the inside lane maker Line, persons getting out of the drivers door without checking their mirrors, Resulting in the drivers door been ripped off, I have seen cars very close to the line, why they do not pull well over beats me, a bit of common sense could have saved some peoples lives as I know from personal experience.

[Old_Geezer]

It would have done for the second link but I had the sense to check the first one too.

[New Judge]

There are stretches of the M25 where the hiard shoulder no longer exists, having been permanently converted to a running lane. I have been on this stretch when there has been an accident. Absolutely no chance of the emergency services reaching the scene promptly. It is only a matter of time until a serious incident occurs and the services are unable to get to the scene quickly enough.

Absolute madness. The lunatics really have taken over.

[mikey4444]

Perhaps a fan of this daft idea can answer a really simple question ::

If you break down on a Motorway, where the hard shoulder is thronged with heavy, fast moving traffic, where do you pull in and stop ?

[Cloverjo]

Yep, it's ridiculous. Absolute insanity. Who came up with this idea?

[mikey4444]

A madman Jo !

[Prudie]

Was it a trekkie cause beam them up seems the only option in an emergency.

[New Judge]

On the M25 stretches there are "Emergency pull off areas" (i.e. lay-bys) about every half mile or so. Fine if you conveniently break down adjacent to one of them. Not too much fun if you've just passed one. I have seen broken down vehicles who have not been so fortunate anad the situation they find themselves in (pulled up in effectively a running lane) is horrendous.

[douglas9401]

Decades of 'the hard shoulder is for emergencies only' being drummed into us could be swept away to save a few quid.
It's typical of the UK outside of London, everything done on the cheap, cross fingers and bluff it when it goes wrong.

[baza]

Daft idea imo.