Petrol Cars Abolished By 2030

[Khandro]

The sale of new petrol and diesel cars will be banned in Britain from 2030 as part of a Great Reset promoted by Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s current official girlfriend Carrie Symonds (aka Princess Nut Nut).
Is this a good idea?

[MartinMillar]

This was already on the cards before his fiancé came along.
Why are you blaming Ms Symonds?

[bhg481]

Phasing out petrol/diesel is a good idea but they will have to be replaced by something more convenient than battery-power to be fully acceptable. It needs to be something which can be dispensed easily; hydrogen is the obvious solution.

[Khandro]

MartinMillar;//This was already on the cards before his fiancé came along. Why are you blaming Ms Symonds?//

When was this first "on the cards"? & when was it she "came along"?

As Westminster insider, journalist Dan Hodges puts it:

‘[Dominic Cummings’s] Brexiteers who have controlled the political agenda since 2016 have been unceremoniously evicted from Downing Street. The strategy that brought Boris his stunning 80-seat majority less than 12 months ago has been ditched. In short, a spectacular coup has been mounted at the heart of Government – one led not by Cabinet Ministers or MPs, but by the Prime Minister’s own partner.'

[dave50]

Totally impractical.

[mushroom25]

// hydrogen is the obvious solution. //

on the face of it, yes. but it's nowhere near developed enough. for instance, at this time hydrogen requires a storage space 10 times as large as current fuel tanks delivering an equivalent amount of energy.

[TrevorThePug]

Oh dear god, someone quoting Dan Hodges.....

Karen! KAREN! I’ve got an ABer with no pulse here.

Electric cars are the way forward, we’re long before Johnson came along. Maybe we will all be able to afford one after Brexit..... or not.

Even the Uniti One is £18.5k now, and after Brexit £25k.

I see lots of black market sales.

[dave50]

I will stick with my v8 diesel 4x4 thanks, it will run forever.

[Ellipsis]

If Boris does something you like, like Brexit, it's his doing. If he does something you don't like, it's "Carrie Symonds (aka Princess Nut Nut)"'s doing. You do sound awfully like a misogynist.

[TrevorThePug]

“ will stick with my v8 diesel 4x4 thanks, it will run forever. “

Possibly but with the post-Brexit pound dropping like a stone against the dollar and thus global wholesale oil price, it will cost you considerably more.

[bhg481]

mushie - yes, I appreciate the energy/volume problem but we need something which is clean and quick and easy to transfer from storage to a vehicle. The new buses in our area run on methane, which must be the next best thing to hydrogen. Interestingly they are replacing the 9-year old hybrid buses with the methane ones (some new, some just replacing the hybrid transmission) as the batteries come up for replacement.

[TrevorThePug]

Ellipsis it’s been bought forward from 2040 to 2030. That’s all.

Maybe the realisation that imported fuel inaffordability will happen sooner than expected because of the impact Brexit will have.

[dave50]

The prices of used petrol and diesel cars will rocket after 2030.

[TrevorThePug]

"The prices of used petrol and diesel cars will rocket after 2030."

The price of EVERYTHING will rocket after January 2021. And we'll have huge tax increases to pay back the debt of all the huge £bn government contracts issued willy nilly to Tory cronies.

[gulliver1]

TTP 12.22 , Spot on.

[Khandro]

Trevor the plug: //Karen! KAREN! I’ve got an ABer with no pulse here.
Electric cars are the way forward,.....//

Apart from your hilarious wit, there seems to be an electrical dimension to your moniker, if so perhaps you can explain where the electricity is to come from to re-charge a million cars every night & how many nuclear stations will have to be built, because it wont be coming from renewables.

[Togo]

//Maybe the realisation that imported fuel inaffordability will happen sooner than expected because of the impact Brexit will have//

How much fuel for internal combustion engines do we buy from the EUSSR? Have Germany, France, Italy, and Latvia signed the suicide note? As for natural gas to heat our homes ... we buy most of that from Russia, an model ecological regime if ever I saw one. We could dispense with the nonsensical transportation of gas across the EUSSR via vast pipeline and become natural gas exporters if we begin extracting the oceans of gas that we sit on. Perhaps the defunct pipeline could be used to transport the millions of illegal immigrants here instead. Rather like one of those tube transport set ups that the department stores used to have.

[TrevorThePug]

About 6m metric tonnes from the Netherlands and 5m metric tonnes from Russia. The UK doesn't produce enough diesel itself to meet the demand.

[Ellipsis]

I think you can be prosecuted for jamming a small dog into a live electrical socket.

[Togo]

//About 6m metric tonnes from the Netherlands and 5m metric tonnes from Russia. The UK doesn't produce enough diesel itself to meet the demand.//

Imaginary figures?

The Import of crude oil and natural gas liquids to the UK 2019.

Norway 19,155K Metric tonnes.
United States 11,405K Metric tonnes.
Algeria 4,325K Metric tonnes.
Russia 3,800K Metric tonnes.
Nigeria 2,777K Metric tonnes.
Saudi Arabia 1,024 Metric tonnes.
There are another 10 sources listed and down there in the pack is Netherlands on 485K Metric tonnes.

//Leading export destinations
As an exporter, the UK sold more crude oil to the Netherlands than any other country. In 2018, exports to the Benelux country reached 16.8 million metric tons. However, this figure also includes crude oil volumes meant for transshipment or in transit to other destinations, like Belgium and Germany. Norway also imported some 1.14 million metric tons of crude oil from the UK.
Production of crude oil
In 2018, the UK produced nearly 47.6 million metric tons of crude oil. This was the highest figure since 2011 and an increase of 21 percent compared to the low of 37.5 million metric tons recorded in 2014//

https://www.statista.com/statistics/381963/crude-oil-and-natural-gas-import-origin-countries-to-united-kingdom-uk/

[Khandro]

In a previous post, I said a million cars as a figure of speech, according to the RAC were 38.4 million vehicles registered on British roads at the end of June 2020.