Interesting Talk On Electric Vehicles......worth 14 Mins

[ToraToraTora]

Listen beyond the opening minutes......

[dave50]

Absolutely fascinating and thought provoking. They should show it in all schools but of course they won't.

[bednobs]

Could you precis it for us?

[ToraToraTora]

not as well as he can, watch it.

[youngmafbog]

Nothing said there hasnt been known for years.

Perhaps someone should send it to the Prime Minister and her husband. And the Greens.

[youngmafbog]

Very well presented though.

[piggynose]

The electric car isnt entirely green! In a nutshell!
Hybrids might be a better alternative until they develop the electric further and create a truely green car. Cuz basically we're kidding ourselves if we think eletric cars are CO2 free.

[davebro]

best would be hydrogen powered but there again how to make the hydrogen!

[Old_Geezer]

From splitting H2O ?

[davebro]

^^^ yes - with electricity which is generated (mainly) from fossil fuels at the moment.

[DTCwordfan]

To me, who has been in the industry, this is one of the major potentials for the future - why we want to scrap petroleum product cars when this is coming, who knows - and also in terms of total life cycle of emissions - all those redundant cars and distribution networks that will be left out there whereas we can continue to use them..... in short, nuts.
https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/2021/company/porsche-construction-begins-commercial-plant-production-co2-neutral-fuel-chile-25683.html

[ToraToraTora]

dave, hydrogen is a non starter until we can get it without using power to get it otherwise it's pointless.

[mushroom25]

there also needs to be an easier and safer way to store it on vehicles - currently it needs pressure vessels capable of sustaining 700bar, or cryogenic temperatures. the project to develop a hydrogen powered rail vehicle wasn't subtitled "Project Kerboom" lightly......

[10ClarionSt]

Climate change isn't man-made. It's natural.

[Atheist]

100clarion. Link? Are you just making it up?

[10ClarionSt]

I refer all Hon. Members to my reply at 20.06. Besides, I've given my reasons on here many times. But people prefer to be brainwashed by money-making beneficiaries of the climate change stance, otherwise known as The Emperors' New Clothes.

[Atheist]

Clarion, you'd have done better stating your source rather than referring to your own historic posts.

[sevenOP]

Greg Foot asks whether electric vehicles really are the best thing since sliced bread. Released On: 07 Apr 2022

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m00162yr

[Old_Geezer]

You don't have to generate electricity from fossil fuels. Regardless whether you intend heating your home with it or creating fuel for cars.

[sevenOP]

@7:39 "it means [ the non-renewable renewable energy-harvesting technologies - solar panels, wind turbines, hydro energy structure ]... have magically appeared out of thin air"

Unfortunately.
Darn those 'externalities' !