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The Ulez Situation.............
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...........isn't going to win anyone any votes. Even if the court had ruled against Mad Sad Khan, the whole thing would have just been used for road charging based on usage. What happened to the development of anti-pollution measures? Remember lead-free petrol? That was going to be a big help to reduce vehicle emissions. But hold on, it gets better! There is now the Catalytic Converter. This will be an even bigger help to reduce vehicle emissions. But hold on again! We now have Ad Blue, for diesel vehicles. Sorted! Much lower and less harmful emissions that are surely making lots of money for a few people. Trouble is, according to Mad Sad Khan, over 4,000 deaths a year in London are caused by vehicle emissions; something that he cannot prove and neither can anyone else. I haven't followed the recent case but I wonder if anyone challenged Mad Sad in court to provide proof of Monty Python type statement
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Trouble is, according to Mad Sad Khan, over 4,000 deaths a year in London are caused by vehicle emissions; something that he cannot prove and neither can anyone else.
It's actually according to a study by Imperial College London.
From: https:/
"Imperial College London, globally renowned experts in air quality research, have looked at the health burden of air pollution in London. Their research found that in 2019, toxic air contributed to the premature deaths of around 4,000 Londoners. This includes deaths from all causes, including respiratory, lung cancer and cardiovascular diseases. "
Also, see:
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You wrote:
Trouble is, according to Mad Sad Khan, over 4,000 deaths a year in London are caused by vehicle emissions; something that he cannot prove and neither can anyone else.
It's actually according to a study by Imperial College London.
From: https:/
"Imperial College London, globally renowned experts in air quality research, have looked at the health burden of air pollution in London. Their research found that in 2019, toxic air contributed to the premature deaths of around 4,000 Londoners. This includes deaths from all causes, including respiratory, lung cancer and cardiovascular diseases. "
Also, see:
https:/
He has provided no evidence whatsoever as to how 4,000 deaths occurred or rather the causes of the respiratory failure. It could be multiple causes. He got wind of one young girl's tragic death which could have been exacerbated by traffic fumes but I read she suffered from chronic asthma from day 1 of her all too short life. I don't believe that 4,000 autopsy's were carried out on these bodies to firmly establish that toxic traffic fumes were the primary bogey. Khan has been proved a liar and it was also proved he massaged and exaggerated figures in his worthless consultation process which was not binding in law
air quality in london is a serious concern and the fact is that something needs to be done about it. khan has shown leadership on this important issue.... the tories are desperate to use it as a wedge for the next election to try and divide labour and starmer has despicably fallen for their trickery. it cannot be permitted to work.
//the tories are desperate to use it as a wedge for the next election//
I don't think they need to use it as a wedge. It is a wedge. Pity the poor people who have to 'cough up' - so to speak - for this nonsense.
And there's Mr Khan offering them £1,000 - or is it £2,000? - to trash their cars in favour of newer cleaner models. They just have to find the other £20,000 or £30,000 to buy them. No problem, Mr Khan!
I don't think they need to use it as a wedge. It is a wedge. Pity the poor people who have to 'cough up' - so to speak - for this nonsense.
And there's Mr Khan offering them £1,000 - or is it £2,000? - to trash their cars in favour of newer cleaner models. They just have to find the other £20,000 or £30,000 to buy them. No problem, Mr Khan!
The figure of 4,000 deaths came from the Imperial College London using the approach derived from multi-pollutant model results.
The report outline summary states:
Results without the cut-off give a range of 3,600 to 4,100 attributable deaths (or 61,800 to 70,200 life years lost) using the approach derived from multi-pollutant model results.
The report is VERY complex and goes into data modelling I don't understand, but I suggests that quite alot of analysis has been done to end up with this figure.
The report outline summary states:
Results without the cut-off give a range of 3,600 to 4,100 attributable deaths (or 61,800 to 70,200 life years lost) using the approach derived from multi-pollutant model results.
The report is VERY complex and goes into data modelling I don't understand, but I suggests that quite alot of analysis has been done to end up with this figure.
people are attempting to minimise and dismiss the problem with london's air pollution when it is obviously a serious issue to anyone who cares to look
climate change denialists always say "why can't we just focus on the issue of pollution" and when someone actually does it they just whine about it
the tories are convinced that the ULEZ won them their paper-thin victory in the recent by election and are hammering it as hard as they can
climate change denialists always say "why can't we just focus on the issue of pollution" and when someone actually does it they just whine about it
the tories are convinced that the ULEZ won them their paper-thin victory in the recent by election and are hammering it as hard as they can
Sadiq Khan extending the ULEZ to cover the whole of London was a condition of TfL funding from the Tory central government – so it was a bit rich of the Tories to complain about their own insistence of the zone’s extension, in order to win the Uxbridge by-election.
Given the Tories insistence on the extension of the London ULEZ zone, people should be blaming the Tories for this, and not Khan.
Given the Tories insistence on the extension of the London ULEZ zone, people should be blaming the Tories for this, and not Khan.
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Yes...like interest rate rises to curb inflation this is a fiscal constraint to change our behaviour. If I still lived in London and drove a non-compliant vehicle I'd be forced to change my behaviour and the effect of that would be cleaner air.
And it's happened before - when the ban on smoking in public places came in, it was a catalyst for alot of people quitting.
When we were forced to wear seatbelts, fewer propel died or were seriously injured in car accidents.
This will be painful for thousands, but not as painful as the fiscal drag MILLIONS of us are having to endure because of the government’s decision to freeze income tax thresholds!!
Yes...like interest rate rises to curb inflation this is a fiscal constraint to change our behaviour. If I still lived in London and drove a non-compliant vehicle I'd be forced to change my behaviour and the effect of that would be cleaner air.
And it's happened before - when the ban on smoking in public places came in, it was a catalyst for alot of people quitting.
When we were forced to wear seatbelts, fewer propel died or were seriously injured in car accidents.
This will be painful for thousands, but not as painful as the fiscal drag MILLIONS of us are having to endure because of the government’s decision to freeze income tax thresholds!!
No naomi24
Boris implemented it whilst he was Mayor of London.
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Boris implemented it whilst he was Mayor of London.
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