when did 1 o'clock become 2 'clovk

[lsm123]

are ther any oldies out there who remember the big bands of the 30's & 40's? In 1935 Count Basie composed 1 o'clock jump and it was his theme tune for 50 +years It was recorded by several other bands including Duke Ellington, Chick Webb Benny Goodman, Glenn Miller etc, yet when Harry James recorded it it became 2 o'clock jump. Any one know why? it's been bugging me for a long long time

[Machecoul]

1 o'clock jump is credited to Count Basie

2 o'clock jump is credited to Basie, Goodman and James.

I assume it was changed in some way and Goodman and James were able to gain from the new recording?

Are the songs the same? I don't know!

[lsm123]

Thanks for info They are almost identical with some variation in arrangements, which was common for all the big bands playing the same numbers,

[sydmayne]

Both are written on top of  the twelve-bar blues chord sequence, so to the average listener they sound as if they are the same tunes, just arranged differently. There are literally thousands of pieces of music based on the same chords. Give most competent dance musicians the same chords and he will ad lib on them to provide as many "new tunes" as you might need. I must have heard millions of variations while playing during the last fifty or so years.

[lsm123]

Thaks sydmayne for your comments, there are as you say many many versions of numbers which are quite different but the title remains the same. When Harry James first recorded this with the Goodman lineup it was still released as 1 o'clock jump, but when he forms his own outfit and plays another arrangement it becomes 2 o'clock jump. Miller has 4 versions of In the mood but allreleased under the same title, likewise Shaw's version of Stardust, Ellington's A Train etc.etc. I can only recall 1 instance of a number being retitled after a new arrangement, and that is what we know as Moonlight Serenade which was originally penned under a different title.