Paul Mccartney In The Sunday Times

[andy-hughes]

There is a fascinating piece in today's ST Magazine about Paul McCartney's new book, in which he discusses his lyrics through the years, and the ST prints a section of lyrics by each part.

One of the songs is Dear Friend, from the Wildlife album, a favourite album and song of mine.

I noticed that the ST printed the line "Dear friend, throw the wine ..." and I had always heard it as THROUGH the wine, which to my ears, makes sense, rather than 'throw the wine'.

I listened again, and in my view, Paul slightly slurs the word, it does sound like 'throw' - but I don;t think that makes sense, but 'through the wine' does make sense.

I have attached the song - the line comes in after 38 seconds - do let me know what you think.

[Bobbisox1]

John Lennon was the' brilliant' songwriter for the Beatle sand the most talented of them too

[andy-hughes]

TTT - // Andy, can you explain why PM is not an ex-Beatle? //

It's not that PM is not an ex-Beatle, clearly he is. It's that the label is used to identify him, as though without that tag, people would not actually recognise the name, which is nonsense.

Bob Geldof is never 'ex-Boomtown Rat Bob Geldof', Michael Jackson is never 'ex-Jackson Five Michael Jackson', George Michael is never 'Ex Wham! George Michael', the list goes on, but PM is certainly more famous for more geeater songs than any of them.

I think that anyone who knows anything about culture in the last sixty years, knows who Paul McCartney is, and doesn't need to be reminded that he was once in a band that split up fifty-one years ago, in case they confuse him with any other famous Paul McCartneys out there.

[andy-hughes]

Bobbi - // John Lennon was the' brilliant' songwriter for the Beatle sand the most talented of them too //

I think that all three writers in The Beatles were brilliant, and I think talent is a difficult thing to quantify.

As a musician, I think Paul was the most talented, he played bass, guitar and drums and piano, all to a high standard.

[andy-hughes]

pat - // I'm curious about what will happen to me!! I really don't see Paul McCartney as a really good songwriter or a brilliant musician. To me he is a just an EX BEATLE. You may or may not remember our argument years ago about him! ;o) //

To be honest, I don't remember our argument.

My view of artists, probably coloured by professioanl interest, is that I can absolutely appreciate their talent, whilst enjoying absolutely nothing that their talent produces - and that applies to dozens if not hundreds of artists whose work I have heard and seen over the years.

I appreciate that a lot of peole do not actually enjoy the output of Sir Paul, or The Beatles, but not liking something does not diminish the talent involved in creating it.

[jno]

Paul was right, the Stones did come out of blues music while the Beatles came out of rock'n'roll. And they were a cover band a lot longer than the Beatles, though they've been doing their own material for a while now. The Stones moved into rock, but that's about all: their attempts at psychedelia were lame (their country-style songs aren't bad at all). But the Beatles were influenced by everything and not afraid to experiment.

Also, the Beatles were always British. The Stones were wannabe Americans and still are.

[AuntPG]

// Also, the Beatles were always British. The Stones were wannabe Americans and still are.//

I think the last three words of that sentence speak volumes lol!
The Beatles lasted 10 years - The Stones started out in London in 1962 and have been commercially successful for nearly 60 years

[Smowball]

I hear ‘throw the wine’.

[elliemay1]

I can clearly hear 'throw the wine'. I don't think it's slurred

[pat2604]

The Stones have always done it for me, mainly because of their style of music. There are many more songwriters that are far more talented than McCartney in my opinion. But I did like Yesterday - it is timeless. And yes Naomi , cor !. I really don't like McCartney at all.

[AuntPG]

I did not like the Beatles music, although I did like George as eye candy in the day. I really can't stand the other three, however talented they are supposed to be. Never liked the Stones either, but one or two songs I really like (Angie for instance)

[pat2604]

/My view of artists, probably coloured by professioanl interest, is that I can absolutely appreciate their talent, whilst enjoying absolutely nothing that their talent produces - and that applies to dozens if not hundreds of artists whose work I have heard and seen over the years./

I think that applies to most people who love music and really appreciate it, even though we are not in the industry. We all have different tastes and opinions. I come from a very musical family.

[AuntPG]

If you are musical you can appreciate a wide variety of different styles, without actually liking the performers. My musical tastes range from Alice Cooper to Dolly Parton lol!

[pat2604]

I go through the whole range. But not much opera or musical theatre. Love Dolly Parton APG. Love Bowie, Cold Play, killers, lots of the old crooners, country,etcetera etcetera through all the genres!

[pat2604]

And, ha ha, was offered to train as a songstress at the Guildhall School of Music. Now I sing like an old crow!!!

[pat2604]

And to play the flute. I was stupid and turned it down!!

[anneasquith]

No point in looking back lottie, it’s a waste of energy. Are you getting better ? Sorry for diversion ..

[pat2604]

Yes, much improved thanksAnne. All due to a local private physio who looked at my xrays and visits me at home, making me do boot camp exercises. I apparently have a knee cap in the wrong place, and has been for years. The knee cap went even more over when I fell. Getting muscle strenthening exercise around the knee. Ribs improving slowly. The NHS help has been nil, apart from getting me equipment.

[bednobs]

and picking you up a few times :)
glad youre a bit better

[tamborine]

Paul arranged for Linda's accountant father to take over Beatles accounts, to the annoyance of John, who then went solo.

I laughed when M Jackson bought the rights to Beatles songs at auction. Paul had been doing same of USA song writers.

[AuntPG]

Linda McCartney's father, Lee Eastman was not an accountant he was a show Biz lawyer.

Its well documented why they broke up and it had P all to do with accounts lol!