One Law For Them, A Different Law For The Rest Of Us

[Gromit]

120,000 Fixed Penalty Notices (on the spot fines) were issued last year for breaking lockdownrules. For some House Parties, £10,000 was levied on those organising them. All issued by the police without any trial or jury determining guilt.

Today we hear that 50 people with evidence against them of partying at No.10 (including the Prime Minister and his wife) have been sent a questionnaire by the Police. Apparently they already have 300+ photos of who were at the Parties.

Why weren’t 120,000 given the opportunity to fill in a questionnaire before they were prosecuted. When was this new practice introduced? Has it been used before? Or is this just a special dispensation for our ruling elite ?



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60327143?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA

[naomi24]

Maybe because the people at No 10 we’re together all day every day anyway. They weren’t inviting outsiders to gatherings as those who were fined had.

[douglas9401]

Obviously the proles weren't 'working inCREDibly hard' and so deserve no special treatment.

Are you new to this society of ours?

[douglas9401]

Damn! I thought I might have beaten Cenral Office to the punch.

[Buenchico]

>>> All issued by the police without any trial or jury determining guilt

Anyone issued with a Fixed Penalty notice, whether that be for speeding, littering, breaking Covid regulations or anything else, has the right to refuse to pay and argue their case before a court.

Anyone who is suspected of a criminal offence has the right to submit a written statement to the police, outlining their version of events. It appears that, in effect, that is what certain people are now being asked to do.

I agree that the use of questionnaires in an investigation is unusual but perhaps the Met (which is usually a grossly inefficient organisation) has for once decided to use an efficient way of doing things?

[ToraToraTora]

"All issued by the police without any trial or jury determining guilt. " - they all had the right to plead not guilty and go to court.

[ToraToraTora]

Can we just give them the fixed penalty concerned and move on.

[Gromit]

Sending a questionnaire rather than a face to face interview under caution, also avoids embarrassing headlines - ‘Police interview Prime Minister’.

[youngmafbog]

//they all had the right to plead not guilty and go to court.//

Easier said than done for some people.

We do live in a two tier society all that has happened here is that is has come to the fore.

What was really wrong is Plod being able to hand out fines of 10K without going to Court.

[Gromit]

In terms of solving a crime, a visit from the police to interview the suspects, and the police being able to read their reactions to difficult questions when faced with the evidence, is more likely to get a confession, than an email in their in-box.

[Stickybottle]

The original Mr Grey sums it up perfectly :

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60331189

[dannyk13]

ymb//What was really wrong is Plod being able to hand out fines of 10K without going to Court.//
As has already been posted the recipient of a fixed penalty notice can refuse it and elect to go to court.The amount of the fixed penalty notice is of no consequence,

[Gromit]

When fines are eventually levied on those in No.10, I wonder how many will elect to go to Court before paying it ?

[ToraToraTora]

Gromit you've had about 10 weeks of feeding from Party gate, how much longer do you want?

[Stickybottle]

ToraToraTora
Gromit you've had about 10 weeks of feeding from Party gate, how much longer do you want?
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The weeping and continually running open sore of a rancid government will remain prominent until Gray 2.0 is published and the Met have finished cross-referencing the 50 questionnaires to see who exactly has been telling porkies to cover for Peppa Pig aka Big Hog(not dog)

[bednobs]

Is it usual for the police to question people via questionnaire?

[mushroom25]

// What was really wrong is Plod being able to hand out fines of 10K without going to Court //

what was really wrong during the pandemic was the police being left to themselves to make up the rules - like issuing summonses to people with "non essential items" in their shopping trolleys, telling those they found out of their houses that exercise was limited to an hour a day, and the coffee drinkers fined for "having a picnic".....

[Gromit]

// how much longer do you want? //

At this pace, another 6 months should do it.

[Stickybottle]

Boss Hog is still in denial :

Updated link

https://news.sky.com/story/downing-street-parties-sir-john-major-says-brazen-excuses-were-dreamed-up-and-deliberate-lies-to-parliament-must-be-fatal-to-careers-12538111

[Peter Pedant]

// Anyone who is suspected of a criminal offence has the right to submit a written statement to the police, outlining their version of events.//

how do you know you are suspected for chrissakes?

and anyway these are being asked and not volunteering and told "tell the truth for a change damn you!"

I have made 'voluntary declarations' to the police - ( er exercising my right to do whatever Chris says I can do) one of which was to say a neighbour, pregnant white girl wasnt this;
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/mickey-guvnor-francis-loan-shark-12243503

rather obvious, so would they stop visiting....a very different kettle of fish ( or whale if you see what I mean)

I think we have our evidential doo-dahs in a knot

[Peter Pedant]

// ToraToraTora
Gromit you've had about 10 weeks of feeding from Party gate, how much longer do you want?//

ha!
peanuts - we had Brexit from TTT for a YEAR ! - every day and that was onlyy a warm-up if you get my meaning