Strikers

[lady-janine]

I am finding it a little difficult to understand this constant need to strike.
I fully understand the need for more money and I also think that there are some very fat, overpaid cats around but I feel quite sure they will not lose their bonuses or share dividends when pay day comes round.
All I can see happening is that eventually all strike payments will eventually passed on to customers and so no one will be better off.
I would love to see my pension increase by a substantial amount but doubt that it will and anyway it would be passed on to tax payers who will then want another rise.
The whole thing is a complete roundabout.

Does anyone agree with me or am I completely wrong?

The only people not to lose will be the fat cats and strike leader who never lose out whatever happens.

[douglas9401]

When nobody listens or does anything to try and ease a situation sometimes the only option is to withdraw labour.

I've never done it myself but I doubt it's like a holiday.

[Bobbisox1]

I don’t think any strike has a satisfactory outcome for everyone, those who strike lose that days pay but sadly it’s the only weapon they have especially seeing how much CEO s of the large companies are awarded

[lady-janine]

I am not anti unions and I do understand their need to call strikes on occasion I am just trying to understand who benefits from the strikes.

[Zacs-Master]

I'm completely anti unions. Unfortunately there's a generation of people who don't know the consequences of their selfish actions

[237SJ]

It's not always about the money though. That is the point that the media press but there is usually more to it than that. Change of contracts (the contract that the worker signed with the company and the company wants to renege on) I was talking to a postwoman recently and completely understood her point when she told me what was happening.

[237SJ]

By the way, the strike payments come out of the union's coffers.

[Bobbisox1]

Agree with 237SJ, working conditions are a major factor, whilst zero hours helps some I don’t agree with them

[Zacs-Master]

And where do the union's funds come from?

[237SJ]

Salaries but you don't have to be employed to be in and contributing to a union.

[ToraToraTora]

Unions serve no purpose whatsoever they are anti workers they are anti jobs they cause no end of problems. Their leaders strut around with a loyal army that suffers for them when they do not suffer themselves. Many are too young to see what they did last time they had power and fall for the union BS that they are fighting the government/employers for fair pay, cobras, the dockers are on over £40k train drivers £60k well above average. They must be further neutered like TGL taught us in the 80s.

[Zacs-Master]

Well said, Tora.

[Paigntonian]

It's insane to believe people working in a particular sector are somehow worse off if if the head of the company earns a lot of money.

[Zacs-Master]

Wrong thread?

[bobbinwales]

//Change of contracts (the contract that the worker signed with the company and the company wants to renege on) //
But that happens in loads of jobs, as business changes... I been through numerous reorganisations, haveing to reappy for roles, changes/ closure of pension schmes, changes to contracts. Bisuiness changes

[Paigntonian]

Zacs: If you're referring to my brief contribution then I point you to the original question that mentioned 'fat cats'. I do hope that's OK with you.

[CrapAtCryptics]

Inflation is high so many people want a high payrise which makes inflation higher so they are no better off. Maybe if those 4% of the population started getting jobs it would help the economy and reduce the benefits gravy rain. I see jobs advertised all over our area so why cant they.

[Gromit]

It is not the first time we have had high inflation.
In the 70s and 80s when the Government’s lost control of the economy, then a big increase in industrial action took place. If a pay increase is half of inflation then you are steadily getting worse off for doing the same amount of work. It is that grievance that results in strikes.

[FatticusInch]

Lady-janine,
//I am finding it a little difficult to understand this constant need to strike.
I fully understand the need for more money and I also think that there are some very fat, overpaid cats around but I feel quite sure they will not lose their bonuses or share dividends when pay day comes round.//

You’ve answered your own question.
Lots of workforces are fed up of seeing their wages drop in real terms as well as their working conditions, whilst in contrast the chief execs and shareholders are getting massive bonuses or dividends, the wealth is not being shared.
In the midst of a cost of living crisis it’s bound to cause more than a scintilla of resentment.

[davebro]

bloomin snowflakes - I wonder what they would do if we had another period of 3-day weeks, electricity rationing, no central heating, running a light bulb from an old car battery, mortgage interest at 16%.

They don't know they are born!

[davebro]

//shareholders are getting massive bonuses or dividends//

Can you point me to some of the companies paying massive dividends, they aren't the ones I'm invested in!