Now They Are Bullying Local Authorities.....

[ToraToraTora]

https://news.sky.com/story/government-demands-immediate-mandatory-housing-plans-from-councils-to-build-1-5m-homes-13271785

They can't just click their fingers and magic up thousands of houses.

[bednobs]

poor ickle local authorities.  Being asked to work at pace - shocking

[naomi24]

Perhaps they'll magic up the schools, hospitals and jobs, etc., to go with all this marvellous new housing too.  That sainted working family Starmer keeps banging on about will need all of that too.

[webbo3]

Listen to her at 33 seconds, and what have labour just done to the OAPs

[Atheist]

Don't you want the govt to succeed in achieving more housebuilding? Why sneer at everything they do to improve things?

What would you say if Tories or Reform came forward with plans for more housing?

[webbo3]

A

Clueless Rayner,

There is plenty of housing, we need more houses

[Old_Geezer]

I want them to relieve the stress in the house market by sending illegals back. We ought not need more accommodation as we do not need an increasing population. What's the plan; to cover the whole island in concrete ? What is designated green should stay green.

[fender62]

Old_Geezer, labour hedging there bets, all illegals will be future labour voters living on benefits, russians used to live two or three familes sharing two or three rooms, solves the integration problem, of course have a snitch amongst them to tell the authorities of any dissent, under occupancy of a home will be a crime whether private or social, the state will end private ownership.. all property is theft.

[douglas9401]

Promises made in the heat of the night...

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/jul/17/government-on-track-to-break-boris-johnsons-40-new-hospitals-promise

Yer but, no but, yer but...

Nobody said it was easy, well, almost nobody.

[fripfrip]

Atheist 17:16,it's a population crisis we have got not a housing crisis,get rid of illegals would be a good starting point.

[Peter Pedant]

They need a good kicking - some councils are afwul  (Brum)

[Khandro]

Atheist //Don't you want the govt to succeed in achieving more housebuilding? Why sneer at everything they do to improve things? What would you say if Tories or Reform came forward with plans for more hous
ing?//

 

I would say, along with Reform, stop immigration & there will be no need for it, certainly not on the scale proposed.

Caring people have fought for years to try to stop the development by the building lobby of the beautiful Slad Valley (Laurie Lee country). I feel now under this hapless, incompetent, ill-educated shower, its demise is probably inevitable & there are many similar sites at risk within the country. Why?

[New Judge]

“Don't you want the govt to succeed in achieving more housebuilding?” 

No.

“What would you say if Tories or Reform came forward with plans for more housing?”

Exactly the same.

This country does not need 300,000 new homes a year. What it needs is a reduction in the numbers of people arriving to settle here. Over 1.2m people arrived last year. In the coming two decades it is forecast that over 90% of population growth will be caused by immigration. 

There is no way the government (or more accurately, housebuilders) will achieve that aim. There simply is not the capacity in the industry to build that number. Of course labour could be imported from abroad but it seems a strange strategy to address a problem caused by excessive population growth by encouraging more people to settle here.

There is even less chance of the government providing the additional infrastructure and essential services required for whoever occupies these new homes. That's why it is the demand that should be tackled, not the supply.

[Atheist]

Ah, it's all because of immigration? Anyone here got figures of 1; Legal immigration? 2; illegal immigration?

 

 

[New Judge]

"Ah, it's all because of immigration?"

Well more than 90% of it will be (that is the government's own estimation). If net migration was reduced to zero there would be fewer people in the country by 2031 than there are now. I'm not suggesting that should be the target; I'm simply illustrating why the demand for homes is overwhelmingly driven by immigration.

"Anyone here got figures of 1; Legal immigration? 2; illegal immigration?"

Last year around 1.2m people arrived to settle here. Of that number around 30,000 arrived uninvited (i.e. without leave to do so).

I don't know why you asked that question because they all need somewhere to live however they arrived. The difference is the government can control legal immigration but chooses not to do so with any vigour. It seemingly cannot control illegal migration (well it can, but chooses not to do so). But in any case your question is irrelevant o the problem.

[newmodarmy]

Atheist's question seemed irrelevant to me too. More of a knee jerk reaction to any challenge to immigration.

[theshedman]

Wes Streeting was asked about this on question time last night and the figure of one and a half million new homes by the end of this parliament.  Piers Morgan asked him to take a bet for a pound for each home under the figure Labour say will be built with the money going to charity from both of them.  Streeting's answer was that he hasn't got enough money to take the bet.  Gives you lots of confidence that they will actually keep to the number promised doesn't it.  When asked something about the NHS his answer was if we are still here in four years.

[theshedman]

Also forgot to put that Wes doesn't want new houses in his constituency as you can see from the link.  Seems most of the new houses have to go up in Tory areas on green land.

  https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1988135/fiona-bruce-wes-streeting-question-time

[CrapatCryptics2]

Perhaps they could start using the many brown fields sites around the country, that arent contaminated, to put these houses. As a side issue I`ve always thought the should be a minimum size for garages so you can get even an average car off the road.

[jackthehat]

People in the construction industry know that great strides could be made in providing many of these new homes without concreting over great swathes of the countryside. Unfortunately, the housing behemoths will be given carte blanche to throw up their 'executive homes' and wriggle out of their obligations to provide affordable housing.

I had great hopes that re-structuring the planning process would do away with many of the pointless, expensive obstacles preventing smaller developers from providing affordable housing within existing towns and cities.

[gulliver1]

As long as they build these Council type houses in every Tory constituency... No problem ..🤣Go for it Labour🤣