Queen Camilla...But What If...?

[sp1814]

Question 1: If Prince Charles died before the Queen, and upon her death, William acceded to the throne...well, what would Camilla's title be?

Would she remain the Duchess Of Cornwall, or what?

Question 2: If Charles died whilst king, and William became King, what would Camilla's title be then?

[Loosehead]

1. Yes she would remain the Duchess of Cornwall

2. Queen Camilla, the title is never rescinded, they may well add a suffix as in the late Queen mum, she was known as Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother. In the case of Camilla They'd probably come up with something but it would not be "Queen Camilla the King stepmum"!

[Ethel]

2. She would be Queen Camilla, the Queen Dowager.

She could only be the Queen Mother if she were the actual mother of William, not step mother.

There is NEVER a king mother - Queen Mother is the correct title for a widowed queen consort whose son or daughter from the marriage is reigning king or queen.

[Panic Button]

They can call her what ever they like.

They are so far removed from the rest of us, with no real power whatsoever, that it is about as important as Corrie or Eastenders.

[jno]

as far as I know the late QM was just called that to distinguish her from a Queen with the same name; I don't think it's a title that's been otherwise used. Let us hope William is alive and succeeds; if Harry did so, I don't think I could stand a Queen named after an inner suburb.

[Ethel]

Queen Alexandra and Queen Mary were both Queen Mothers.

[China Doll]

Hiya Splat.

Me being me I've completely forgotten where I saw/read/heard this... But I could have sworn that it had been stated that Camilla would never be 'Queen Camilla.'

I'm not sure if it was something to do with her divorce and all that jazz but I'm about 75% certain that round the time of her marriage to Charles, loads of people got on their soap boxes about never recognising her as queen and insult to Diana and blah, blah, blah and the upshot was actually some sort of statement to the effect that she'd never have had the title 'Queen' anyway.

Or I could just be very confused... which is possibly more likely!

[jno]

was the title actually used of them at the time, Ethel? Queen Mary, the Queen Mother? Or just the Queen Mother? (And did she cease to be one before she died?)

[Ethel]

Queen Alexandra, mother of George V, certainly used the title Queen Alexandra the Queen Mother after Edward VII died.

Queen Mary preferred not to use the title Queen Mother, but she was Queen Mary the Queen Mother until our present queen was crowned, when her official title was Queen Mary the Queen Mother Dowager, and her daughter-in-law was Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother.

[Loosehead]

Ethel err I didn't say she would be King mother or any such like.

China that's just a load of palace propaganda coupled with the media trying to placate the masses. The wife of a King is a Queen, end of.

[Peter Pedant]

who eva says the QM was made up for Elizabeth to distinguish her from QE2 is correct

Queen Mother (as applied to Elizabeth) was not two nouns in apposition Queen and Mother

but an irregular genitive = Queen's Mother

And so I am astounded to read that Alex and Mary took the title as they were not the Queen's mother but mother in law of the current queen. None of the contemporary docs I have seen ever used it. Queen Mary in the 4 generation portrait of prince Chas in 1948 is called Queen Mary

She was not a title person, when she would telephone her husband King George V, she would open with "Hello, you old fool." and heard once - His Majesty is not yet on the line.......

[Peter Pedant]

So I think you've guessed they make up titles as and when the need arises

First tried with James I who had a choice - 6th of Scotland and fuuurst of England
so HE had a good idea - I know he said I will pass an act saying I am James VI and I
and he did. I think of Great Britain.

Elizabeth II I think you have realised is only Eliz II of England, and is Eliz I of Scotland, and if you think about it Eliz i of United Kingdom (started in 1801)
so she should be Elizabeth I (II) I
but you will find an act of parliament in 1952 that declares she shall be known as Elizabeth II of United Kingdom.....


Oh Chas Death it seems likely Camilla will be
Camilla Duchess of Cornwall
The Christian name + title shows she is a widow

[jno]

Queen Elizabeth I (II) I... intriguing, sounds like the seating plan on a small plane. I shall try it on her next time we meet.

Who would you like to have a I (II) I with?