Nanny state

[sprayer]

Are we living in a nanny state or a dictatorship ? First there was a ban on smoking now the government are trying to ban cheaper alcohol.. Whatever happend to freedom of choice ?? why should the rest of the nation have to suffer for the idiotic few.

[Reverandfunk]

I smoke but considerately and it the ban annoys me in the respect that smoking itslef is still legal and the govt want all the duty from it, but at the same time try to make u a social leper. if its that bad just ban it full stop.

Same with alcohol, that causes more heartache and misery than any other drug but will they ever ban it?

[sprayer]

I understand the smoking ban in eating places, but honestly think that pubs snd clubs shoul have been given the choice, people could then make up their own minds as to where they went "smoking or non smoking pubs"

[Reverandfunk]

I agree.

I would never smoke in a restaurant when people were eating whether I was in a smoking section or not. In the old days pubs used to have smoke rooms so if you wanted to puff away you went in there.

[sprayer]

It's about time somebody took this goverment to the court of human rights as what they are doing is taking away the peoples fundermental right of freedom of choice. Smoking first now alcohol What's next???

[cockroach]

It is...Watch or read some of David Ikes theory's on it. Quite interesting if you keep an open mind.
I wont be told what to do. I'm such a rebel.

[Reverandfunk]

what are they coakroach?

Does he still wear turquoise lol

[Pippa68]

I am a non smoker and I still don't agree with the smoking ban.

I have to inhale at least 10 fags before I go through the pub door anyway...

[cockroach]

he believes all these things which the government are starting to set in place are leading up to us all beling like slaves.Run by the Uliminate ( not sure of the spelling) Eventually being told what to do wear eat...ect. He has out a copy of a whole day talk he did in London some of it it whooosh over my head ...but some does make sense. & no he dose not wear that hiddeous shell suit I think it was....but he has some strange thing going on with his hands. Anyone got any free time should have a look I only watched it thu it being passed on to me....P.s I'm not expert on this...just watched the DVD.

[cockroach]

He also says...like... problem - reaction - solution... So you could think...Oh no...important files have gone missing. We then ask the government for help ...Solution... Eye & finger scanning...All now on one big database. Being Chipped like cats & dohs will be next.

[Goodsoulette]

Oh come off it. I smoke (and quite heavily too) but not being able to smoke our cancer sticks in the company of people that don't is hardly an infringement on our human rights. Maybe they could have changed it to only places that serve food were non smoking areas but did you write to your MP regrading this. How many smokers did? We all knew it was being discussed. I did nothing so I can't complain about it. If the government let a food dye out on to the market that was known to cause cancer but you carried on to eat it because it wasn't banned even though informed that it was carcinogenic, and then you or a member of your family contracted cancer you would want to know why it wasn't banned.

As for alcohol, I agree with Reverand. It's a misery drug. I was shocked to find out that domestic abuse is at it's worse on a Saturday and Sunday afternoon when men come home from the pub after a few pints. It's not an idiotic few though is it? There's thousands upon thousands who can't drink responsibly.

The government have to look after the majority and if binge drinking is costing the country billions in health care, extra policing and criminal damage etc then the causes have to be looked at.


Do you even know what a dictatorship is? Are you aware you can raise issues with your MP and that you have the right to vote?

[sprayer]

I am also a non smoker but still believe that as a country the people should have been given the choice

[123everton]

We're being conned by everyone, environmentalists included. The other day in the Metro it said alcohol consumption had almost halved in pubs (49%) since 1979 and yet binge drinking is at epidemic proportions? It's all just an excuse to pick your pockets, and all the parties are at it.

[Reverandfunk]

You agree with me Soulette, burger me just off for a lie down lol

Your nan says hello....

[Goodsoulette]

We're always fighting the same corner in the drugs and alcohol debate. I've been swooning over you ever since you gave us that mental image of you in your pants!

[Pippa68]

I have always thought that alcohol needs just as much, if not more, attention than tobacco.

My father gave up smoking 10 years ago and his lungs are as fit as a fiddle. However he gave up drinking 3 years ago and his liver is shot to bits...irreversible.

I have also been told of the hell the family went through living with an alcoholic. He was never as addicted to tobacco as he was the booze.

The 'Drink Aware' signs they take onto booze adverts are pointless.

[Reverandfunk]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/5230006 .stm

Interesting to see where alcohol is over my drug of choice lol

Soulette I was just actually talking to someone else about my "pants" lol

[Goodsoulette]

Crikey, Pippa, that's highly unusual. Liver has a very good rejuvenation rate and yet lungs are normally the irreversibly damaged organs. Was he a very heavy drinker?

[Goodsoulette]

I'm guessing you are probably with me on the drug of choice thing. Although if you actually get hold of some funky LSdivas anymore, I would be over the moon. College students today don't have a clue on what they are missing out on.

[Reverandfunk]

He's Ebeneezer Goode

I dont know about the other not something ive ever fancied lol my mate can probably can pick it up he can everything else lol

[sprayer]

Thanx for your thoughts. yes I do know what a dictatorship is as I have recently lived in a country where this is the norm... Why say when MEN come home from the pub have you seen the clips on tv showing binge drinkers? most are young women spewing in the street . and yes I did write to my MP about the ban. And I still believe people should have been given the freedom of choice.