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Racism, Blacks and Monkey's.
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The Australian cricketer Andrew Symonds was called a "monkey" by Harbajan Singh during a recent test match. And those of you not familiar with cricket, this has caused quite a stir.
Now my point is Andrew Symonds DOES look like a monkey. Because he is the only coloured chap in the Aussie set up (he is from Abo extraction) this has be deemed racist.
Why????
Although a Christian I fully accept we come from monkey's (Primates). It is only natural therefore that some people will resemble their forefathers.
If I say Lee Evans, Will Young, Daniel Craig, Gary Lineker and Wayne Rooney all look like monkey's, am I being racist? No, because they are wgite. But they bloody well do!!!
Yes, although not an evolutionary debate other people look like other animals. Jade Goody looks like a hog, Celine Dion looks like a ostrich, Princess Anne looks like a horse, Vinnie Jones looks like a staffie and the guy who played Mickey Pearce on Only Fools and Horses looks like a rodent.
I can see that maybe during our Empire, (not long after Darwin) coloured Africans were seen as primitive and were depicted as apes, but they did shrink heads and eat other tribe members, so a little banter did no harm. But now I fail to see why Symonds has got the hump. If you see the guy, he is built like the proverbial brick sh*t house and will take fools lightly.
Why, dear ABers, is monkey such a bad insult ONLY to blackies and not whities?
Now my point is Andrew Symonds DOES look like a monkey. Because he is the only coloured chap in the Aussie set up (he is from Abo extraction) this has be deemed racist.
Why????
Although a Christian I fully accept we come from monkey's (Primates). It is only natural therefore that some people will resemble their forefathers.
If I say Lee Evans, Will Young, Daniel Craig, Gary Lineker and Wayne Rooney all look like monkey's, am I being racist? No, because they are wgite. But they bloody well do!!!
Yes, although not an evolutionary debate other people look like other animals. Jade Goody looks like a hog, Celine Dion looks like a ostrich, Princess Anne looks like a horse, Vinnie Jones looks like a staffie and the guy who played Mickey Pearce on Only Fools and Horses looks like a rodent.
I can see that maybe during our Empire, (not long after Darwin) coloured Africans were seen as primitive and were depicted as apes, but they did shrink heads and eat other tribe members, so a little banter did no harm. But now I fail to see why Symonds has got the hump. If you see the guy, he is built like the proverbial brick sh*t house and will take fools lightly.
Why, dear ABers, is monkey such a bad insult ONLY to blackies and not whities?
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I say it's an insult to monkeys, i think most would be beside themselves being compared to an Australian. But i do see what your saying and totally agree. I really don't understand these people who get offended by names, i couldn�t give a toss what anyone calls me, gringo, redneck, whitie, Tommy, limey, pomie b4astard, roast beef or kaffur, it's pathetic and an insult to our intelligence. And if i knew what the Moores used to call us when they made my kind slaves, i wouldn't give a chimps bottom about that either, so don't run with the slave thing.
The other night on Talk Sport Radio, George Galloway was discussing the US Presidential elections and he made reference to the Afro-American candidate Barack Obama.
He said that "Barack would make a good President, at least alot better than the "Gorilla" that is in the White House now", meaning George Bush.
Say for-instance Barack Obama was succesful and became the first black president of the United States of America, but made an even worse President than George Galloway assumes Bush is. Would he also use the term "Gorilla", when appertaining to Obama? I don't think so somehow.
Take it on the chin George Bush, this you what you must learn to do if you are born White.
He said that "Barack would make a good President, at least alot better than the "Gorilla" that is in the White House now", meaning George Bush.
Say for-instance Barack Obama was succesful and became the first black president of the United States of America, but made an even worse President than George Galloway assumes Bush is. Would he also use the term "Gorilla", when appertaining to Obama? I don't think so somehow.
Take it on the chin George Bush, this you what you must learn to do if you are born White.
I read that it's also been deemed especially offensive because Singh apparently used this term during the first test and Symonds not only reported it to officials, but knocked on the Indian team's door and explained to Singh that he found it racially offensive, so it's not even like Singh can claim he didn't know it was offensive.
Looking at pictures of Symonds, I also can't really see any notably simian features.
Looking at pictures of Symonds, I also can't really see any notably simian features.
It's completely offensive, absolutely disgusting behaviour anywhere, let alone on a sports field in front of the worlds media, and completely irresponsible from Harbajan. He is quite rightly being banned.
I'm also pleased that the Australian media has come down hard on an Australian team that have pushed past the boundaries of acceptable agression and abrasiveness on the cricket field.
Of course calling a black person a monkey is different to calling a white person a monkey. If you can't understand that the insult is exclusively used as a gesture of hate, designed to be given and received as one of the most negative possible, then lord help anyone who wants to grow up in a tolerant and peaceful country.
I'm also pleased that the Australian media has come down hard on an Australian team that have pushed past the boundaries of acceptable agression and abrasiveness on the cricket field.
Of course calling a black person a monkey is different to calling a white person a monkey. If you can't understand that the insult is exclusively used as a gesture of hate, designed to be given and received as one of the most negative possible, then lord help anyone who wants to grow up in a tolerant and peaceful country.
Supernick, I feel you may have missed my point.
Andrew Symonds DOES look like a monkey. My aforementioned names (Will young etc) also look like monkeys. So why is this any different?
I was not aware of what waldo said about a previous encounter with Symondsa and Singh, but that does not deter from my opinion.
In otherwords, am I racist if I think Symonds looks like a monkey????
Andrew Symonds DOES look like a monkey. My aforementioned names (Will young etc) also look like monkeys. So why is this any different?
I was not aware of what waldo said about a previous encounter with Symondsa and Singh, but that does not deter from my opinion.
In otherwords, am I racist if I think Symonds looks like a monkey????
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I fear you have poor cognitive abilities if you think the gentleman in the link resembles a monkey. It could be that you yourself have lagged behind in the evolutionary process.
Andrew symonds
I fear you have poor cognitive abilities if you think the gentleman in the link resembles a monkey. It could be that you yourself have lagged behind in the evolutionary process.
Andrew symonds
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/im agedata/0,1658,5330885,00.jpg
If you actually searched google as opposed to lazily using the first avaible photo, you will see monkey man in all his glory.
And observation skills and cognbition are two very different things.
If you actually searched google as opposed to lazily using the first avaible photo, you will see monkey man in all his glory.
And observation skills and cognbition are two very different things.
I think it is necessary to accept (not approve of) the inevitability that virtually any non-complimentary remark to a black man may be interpreted as racially motivated, and there is no defence if this card is played. It is just the 21st century. I find it ironic and amusing that the perpetrator is an Indian. I thought they were - almost by definition - incapable of racism.
To answer the question, yes, he does look like a monkey, as do Wayne Rooney and Lee Evans, but the black races (and muslims) are riding high on a tide of political correctness that in years to come will be heavily regretted.
To answer the question, yes, he does look like a monkey, as do Wayne Rooney and Lee Evans, but the black races (and muslims) are riding high on a tide of political correctness that in years to come will be heavily regretted.
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