Ttip Who Came Up With This Idea?

[Gavmacp]

At the weekend I read a Green Party manifesto and came across this. I had never heard of it before and was astounded that it was even being considered. The worst part for me was allowing private trials which just shocked me.
I for the life of me cannot see any benefit to this but will await replies.

[bhg481]

You'll need to give us a link Gav.

[Gavmacp]

I still haven't learnt how to do this but all you need to do is put TTIP into Google and you will get a general idea.
Rather concerned as I had never heard of this and what I can see it can only help repeat the mistakes of the past.

[douglas9401]

Such a thing cannot exist. The USA is too protectionist and believes it can play by any rules or none as it suits them.

[Gromit]

The big Corporations who will make £billions out of us.

1. TTIP is a proposed ‘free trade’ agreement between the US and the EU. The negotiations around it are shrouded in secrecy, but the information that has been forced out shows that if successful, the agreement would lead to deregulation of what we eat, how we work, and increase the power that large corporations hold over national governments.

2. TTIP also proposes to include the ISDS (Investor-State Dispute Settlement) mechanism. Already in action in several countries under the existing NAFTA (North Atlantic Free Trade Agreement), this allows corporations to directly sue governments for introducing legislation that reduces their profits.

3. The Center for Food Safety has already raised concerns about the potential for TTIP to establish a Regulatory Cooperation Council, which could result in ‘harmonisation’ of safety standards, meaning that food not meeting EU standards could be sold here anyway. Such products include chemically washed poultry, livestock treated with growth hormones, and genetically modified crops.

4. On both sides of the Atlantic, elected parliamentarians are only allowed limited access to information about the negotiations, while around 600 ‘corporate advisors’ have full access to this information.

The Greens say it is a power grab by Multi-Nationals. And that it circumvents elected Government. It is a US-EU contrived agreement which is supported by the Conservatives, Labour, LibDems and UKIP.

[mrs_overall]

The Green Party are a bunch of nutters and I have often wondered if they formed when they were booted out of The Monster Raving Loony Party for being too off the wall

[Gavmacp]

I am genuinely thankful that they brought this to my attention.
There is not much I read that makes my jaw drop to the floor but this certainly did.

[melv16]

Have you got to be a nutter to care about the environment?

[mrs_overall]

No, you do not have to be a nutter to care about the environment...I was once naive enough to think that the environment was their main concern. Some of their policies in their manifesto are just plain bonkers

[sevenOP]

mrs_overall>"No, you do not have to be a nutter to care about the environment...I was once naive enough to think that the environment was their main concern. Some of their policies in their manifesto are just plain bonkers "

Which of the Greens policies are 'bonkers' ?

Gavmacp, this video about Trans-Pacific Partnership gives a good general rundown of the problems with Agreements like TTIP, TPP, GATT, NAFTA, etc

http://conversationswithgreatminds.com/video/conversations-wgreat-minds-lori-wallach-trans-pacific-partnership-threat-p1

[Gavmacp]

Thank you for that!
Looks like I will need more research.
Studied economics years ago and did not really understand it, it seems the more I try to understand it the less I do.

[Buenchico]

Please read my post and (more importantly) the links here:
http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Animals-and-Nature/Question1396452.html