Whats Really Happening

[teacake44]

Has it got to the point now that the staff, doctors and nurses are so tired and exhausted is the reason we are still seeing on average 900 /1000 people a day dying from covid, not to mention none covid.? At the beginning of this pandemic when we reached into the thousands we were cob smacked, now it seems almost as its accepted.

Sky this morning on TV were interviewing a chap that lost his wife to covid, she was taken in with breathing problems ( she also had disabilities) when he asked if she was going into ICU, the doctor said to him that she was not suitable?? and she died. So are the real problems of short staff being covered up, hence the continuation of a high rate of deaths when there shouldn't be.

[Peter Pedant]

ITU for covid pts hasnt worked out as they thought it would,

and the speech is third hand - |I asked - is she ick, really ick, doc and he said " aye she's a gonna, she is" - and then he ran towards her screaming wivva pillow. very odd I thought. and the nurse said it wasnt a pillow but a resusc trolley. I dont know ay reely dont

[woofgang]

teacake44 " Sqad Beds full? What was the idea of the Nightingales. Plus Matt Hancock keeps on insisting that the NHS is still open for business, and(no one) gets turned away. She was turned away."

Can we see a link with some facts please?

[teacake44]

It was TV woof, don't you believe me? To put it in a nutshell ( and I know the media can blow things up to be worse than what they are) But they believe that a high percentage of people with disabilities are not being given the same life saving treatment.

[bobbinwales]

the devils in the detail usually. A link to the program might help so we can judge for are self

[Paigntonian]

'Short staff numbers being covered up'. Who's covering it up? No-one. An unanticipated worldwide health crisis and there's bound to be a 'shortage' of staff. What do you think the government and the NHS should have done? Have an unnecessary million staff on stand-by, paid, and for an unforeseen event? Some people will do anything to knock. Try supporting for a change. Mihgt make you feel better.

[Theland]

From my two recent stays in hospital, my experience falls me they are seriously understaffed, and my admiration for them is immense.

[Theland]

Paigntonian - Cameron, Clegg and May run down staff numbers.
May also ignored a 2016 report on responses to a possible pandemic.
It is they who are guilty.

[teacake44]

12.38 No not millions at all that would be very silly, but I think you know that already. It was known back in 2019 that the NHS were 40 thousand nurses short for normal running of the NHS. The government ignored that situation, thats why they choose to cover up now.

[Paigntonian]

Theland: Simply not true that they 'ran-down' staff numbers. It's wrong.

[Paigntonian]

teacake: If they are 'covering up' now they are not doing a very good job of it, are they?

[Theland]

To tackle the deficit?
I think I'm right!

[Theland]

40,000 is the figure that was forever in the news.

[teacake44]

When Matt Hancock is questioned on this shortage, he just refers to 13k that joined the NHS, making out they joined this year, that's BS, that was the amount that joined long before covid, and a high percentage of them have now left, plus many more.

[teacake44]

12.45 just my point as to why we are seeing 900/1000 people dying , due to lack of staff.

[Theland]

I saw patients waiting over twenty minutes for attention after they had pressed the bed alarms, then eventually somebody would come running in! Running to the perpetual sound of more alarms going off in other bays.

[Zacs-Master]

Jesus, more unsubstantiated cobblers. Fact, teacake, facts is what we want not your half baked opinions.

[teacake44]

Just more people burying their heads in the sand to whats really going on, and believing the cobblers coming from government.

[Zacs-Master]

If you want to make a point, rather than everything you write looking like baseless opinion, then you’ll have to provide a link or two.

[teacake44]

Keep looking the other way, it might help. The death rate will carry on increasing way above anyone else.

[Zacs-Master]

Despite me providing facts that it’s dropped by 25%.