Anti-Semitism, Islamic Extremism Remains A Bigger Threat Than The Far-Right

[anotheoldgit]

https://www.thejc.com/comment/comment/islamist-extremism-remains-a-bigger-threat-than-the-far-right-1.483720

In fact the Far-Right is their least threat:

/// CST recorded 1,652 antisemitic incidents last year across the UK, of which just 5 per cent showed clear evidence of far-right motivation. A survey of 16,500 Jews in 12 member states of the EU in 2018 (the biggest survey of Jewish people ever conducted worldwide) is more revealing. The survey recorded the most frequently mentioned categories of perpetrators of the most serious incidents of antisemitic harassment experienced by the respondents as follows: someone they did not know (31 per cent); someone with an extremist Muslim view (30 per cent); someone with a left-wing political view (21 per cent); a colleague from work or school/college (16 per cent); an acquaintance or friend (15 per cent); and someone with a right-wing political view (13 per cent). ///

[Zacs-Master]

Let’s all just remember this is the Jewish Chronicle’s view on things. Not that they’d be biased in any way, you understand.

[naomi24]

Islamic extremism is a bigger threat to all of us - not just Jews.

[anotheoldgit]

Zacs-Master

Don't you think that they (being Jewish) are more in a position to know who is the biggest threat to them.

I suppose that you would still say that they were being bias, when they stated that the Nazis were their biggest threat, during their persecution and slaughter during WW2?

[anotheoldgit]

naomi24

I agree, but in this case we are discussing their threat to Jews.

[Zacs-Master]

Then you suppose wrongly. As usual. I’ve told you before about you butterfly like tendencies to flit from one idea to another. It’s called a non sequitur and is the basis of your debating ‘style’.

‘Don't you think that they (being Jewish) are more in a position to know who is the biggest threat to them’
I think they’re in a position to Crow loudest about anti semitism for their own ends as well. Business is business.

[jno]

the "someone they did not know" was the biggest threat? Well, they could be Muslims, Brexiters, hairdressers, anything. It's unwise to draw conclusions when the most common response is "don't know".

[Zacs-Master]

It’s not unwise if it results in increased circulation / income, jno. Quite the opposite.

[jno]

I meant unwise in the service of accuracy, ZM, which I assume even JC readers are interested in. The truth is the data are insufficient to support the claim that the far right is the least threat. It may be correct but we don't know and the survey doesn't tell us.

[Khandro]

//Let’s all just remember this is the Jewish Chronicle’s view on things. Not that they’d be biased in any way, you understand.//

No biased reporting here, or are you going to try to contradict this evidence, as you tiresomely contradict everything?

https://order-order.com/2019/05/08/jewish-brexit-party-candidates-business-vandalised-giant-swastika/

[Zacs-Master]

Mmm. I suspect maintaining / increasing readership levels trumps data accuracy. I fear you may have attributed more moral fibre to the majority of JC readers than is strictly accurate. This thread being a prime example.

[Zacs-Master]

I’m not sure I contradict things, Khandro. Ask for proof, argue against silly statements and biased news sources, yes.
Now, who’s behind the esteemed outlet ‘order-order’?........oh crikey is it bonfire night already!

[JF85]

Ah! Guido Fawkes. Clearly no agenda, then. I'm convinced.

[anotheoldgit]

But then Anti-Semitism, is not only levelled at Muslims the Far-Right and the Far-Left.

This from the other side of the Atlantic.

https://www.commentarymagazine.com/anti-semitism/the-attacks-on-jews-we-arent-talking-about/

/// There are still other reasons that black-on-Jewish hate crime is largely ignored: Democrats would rather not speak of it because they’re hyper-sensitive about offending African-American voters (and not too worried about losing Jewish ones). Some on the left are so frightened to address this kind of anti-Semitism that they’ve decided it isn’t anti-Semitism at all. ///

[Khandro]

There is an actual photograph of the Jewish-owned shop with an actual swastika painted on it and Zacs not only wants to question Guido Fawkes but implies it's biased news!

On every thread I look at on which you appear it is always the same contradictory stance by you - what is your problem?

Why don't you give us all a break and go and spend a few quid here?

[Zacs-Master]

One incident doesn’t prove the JC (and certainly not GF) right, Khandro. Why should I pay for a 5 minute argument when I can prove people are completely taken in by extremist propaganda on here for free?

[jno]

ooh, unfair, ZM. The JC's a proper newspaper, even if it, and its audience, have an agenda that encourages printing opinion pieces like this one from the rightwing Policy Exchange people. I've already said I think their statistics in this case are guff, but I've thought the same about statistics quoted in the Financial Times, which really should know better, along with the Guardian and of course the Mail. Reporters of all stripes seem easily blinded by stats.

But as for likening it to the hydrophobic corners of AB ... cruel, cruel.

[Zacs-Master]

Well, some ABers do become rather Rabid about these things. ;-)

[Khandro]

Zacs; //One incident doesn’t prove the JC (and certainly not GF) right//

Are you suggesting that the photograph of a swastika daubed on the shopfront of a Jewish-owned shop isn't real?
Are you a holocaust denier too?

[Zacs-Master]

I’m not denying anything but one incident doesn’t make for anti Semitism being a bigger threat than anything else. Anyone who cites one incident as illustrating an epidemic is delusional. Unless they’re trying to twist things to their own skewed view of the world (which, thinking about it, is just as delusional).

Please don’t resort to AOG levels of non sequiturs. Even you’re better than that.

[Khandro]

I suppose you think The Times is fake news do you?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/fifty-british-synagogues-are-attacked-kc0sqf6xxnj

and the BBC?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46439194

Pathetic!