Where's The Sense In Voting Labour?

[naomi24]

Labour intend hitting businesses and oil companies with high taxes. The result will be that the cost is passed on to the consumer meaning potential job losses and higher prices for everything, including fuel. The people least likely to be able to afford higher prices are the poor. Since concern for the poor is an on-going theme here, can anyone who is concerned for the poor but is nevertheless intending to vote Labour, rationalise their choice? Where is the sense in voting Labour?

[naomi24]

What do you want 'given' to you, Theland?

[Jackdaw33]

From the horse's mouth:

He who does not work does not eat. (V. I. Lenin)

[tonyav]

Practically every big company gives its staff enormous benefits from private health insurance to lucrative pension pots and welfare schemes.

Not in my experience, those days have long gone except maybe for senior managers and directors.

[naomi24]

Not so, Tony.

[tonyav]

Well it has in my experience in ( very ) large companies in industry, naomi.

[Theland]

I want nothing given to me.
I don't want to see teachers having to put their hands in their pockets to buy stuff for the kids.
I don't want to see the streets without adequate policing.
I don't want to see nurses having to use food banks, as well as those on benefits.
More to add to the list, but you choose to look the other way.

[johnny.5]

well put theland

[naomi24]

Tony, odd because I know people who work in supermarkets, offices, car companies ... even mending wires and things for BT (not too technical I know - but I don't do technical) ... and they don't do so badly. In fact the bloke I know who mends wires for BT has been off sick intermittently for about three years and recently on sick leave for around 6 months - and is still on full pay. Not so bad at all.

[naomi24]

More hand-wringing Theland. Yes, you want everything as usual. We've done the nurses having to use food banks. Take a look at nurse's salaries and try again. And whilst you're at it, vote Jeremy and see where his brand of socialism gets you. Just be careful what you wish for.

[tonyav]

Full pay on the sick for 6 months is still around in the larger companies, naomi. Final salary pensions are now mainly a thing of the past for shop floor workers.

[albaqwerty]

I heard on the radio t'other day about the current condition Venezuela is in, that IS a destroyed country.
Doesn't Mr Corbyn want the UK to be like that?

[naomi24]

I know.

[naomi24]

^That to Tony.

alba, some people seem to want that.

[tonyav]

Doesn't Mr Corbyn want the UK to be like that?

Looks like he does, alba.

[albaqwerty]

Couldn't we club together to buy him a one-way ticket to his Utopia?

There's no-one left in Venezuela to rise up against the government, even if they did get turfed out, there's no-one left with skills to put it back together.

If there had been a half-decent opposition in this country over recent years, things wouldn't be that much different now imo.
Labour can't even say they tried to do anything and I don't think even a rabid labour supporter could either.
(I am most certainly not a labour supporter)

[Theland]

Naomi, you live in a bubble.
I have had about a dozen employers in my 43 year working life, and not one of them lived up to your fantasy description. Neither do any employers that family and friends work for.
Would you name a few employers and benefits they provide from your personal knowledge and experience please?
Not everybody has a Vanity Fair / Cosmopolitan lifestyle you know.

[tonyav]

(I am most certainly not a labour supporter)

I was until Tony Bliar appeared and put 'New' in front of Labour. And well Corbo and his mates ( Dianne Abacus etc ) are beyond a joke. Labour doesn't ( and hasn't for many years ) represent the 'Working Man' anymore.

[Theland]

"We've done nurses using food banks." Wow! What arrogance and ignorance! What a cheek!
You must be brainwashed by your glossy magazines!
It's a waste of time discussing social issues with you because you seem to have an overactive snob gland.

[naomi24]

I don’t read glossy magazines Theland - ever. Check out nurses salaries. If you can’t hack the truth don’t blame me.

[naomi24]

Absolutely right, Tony. Blair taught me never to vote Labour again.