More Lies From Matt Hancock

[teacake44]

For every (one) person they now test, they are counting it as two, one swob up the nose, and one too the back of the mouth =two tests, this is so they can say they have reached the 200.000 tests per day, what the hell is this government playing at? Should they continue to lie to the public in this way you will see breakdown in law and order sooner or later. So the US rioting started off with a murder, but the real issue is their government handling of the virus and the loss of thousands of jobs and a spineless Trump who's not got a clue, very much like Boris. The virus is winning with global breakdown of law and order. 81% of the public now say Cummings broke the rules so if Boris tries another lockdown it won't work, and that is when the problems will start in the UK.

[fiction-factory]

>Here's an example problem. There are 1.5 million workers in the NHS. Our test capacity is 200,000 per day. How many days will it take to test all the workers in the NHS?

Err- 8 days if everyone turns up for their test. If you did test them you'd need to retest every few days as well so you'd never finish.

[teacake44]

13.10 Not at all, your getting me mixed up with Boris, wanting to see the easing of lockdown, when clearly he's been advised not to, also pretending that tests are being carried out in large numbers, when clearly there not, he has become dangerous now and erratic.

[teacake44]

ff They achieve it in other countries.

[fiction-factory]

I just know that tests are available and people are not taking them up. Maybe we need more centres or to make it compulsory regardless of whether they have symptoms
What do you think the testing capacity should be ellipsis?

[fiction-factory]

>ff They achieve it in other countries.

Achieve what? Figures and links please?. You may be right but show me you're not guessing

[teacake44]

WHO from the start, test test test, UK ignore ignore ignore, lie lie lie,

[dannyk13]

TC, now you are just talking gibberish.

[fiction-factory]

> I take that as a 'no idea', Teacake

[Peter Pedant]

//81% of the public now say Cummings broke the rules so if Boris tries another lockdown it won't work,//

even tho we all recognise the function of a lock down ....

[diddlydo]

Jim - the distance for social-distancing has not yet changed.

[mushroom25]

//I just know that tests are available and people are not taking them up. Maybe we need more centres or to make it compulsory regardless of whether they have symptoms //

the system needs to be a bit more "customer" friendly. last week a colleague who lives just outside Birmingham needed a test and called to make the arrangements. Result - test book in Lincoln 3 days later. lucky he's got a car eh?

[fiction-factory]

>Jim - the distance for social-distancing has not yet changed.

I don't think he said it had. He referred to relaxing social distancing but I think he was referring to slightly larger groups being allowed to meet up

[jim360]

I wasn't meaning the distance specifically -- although it can't help matters that there are a lot of (mainly Tory) backbench MPs who are publicly calling for the two metre guideline to be reduced to one metre. I was thinking more about things like opening parks, garden centres, car showrooms. A lot changed this morning and it's reasonable to worry about the cumulative effects pushing the R rate (well) above 1, even with perfect compliance. Hopefully, in this instance I genuinely *am* "scaremongering", and that I am mistaken to expect the number of cases and deaths to increase significantly from around the middle of June.

[naomi24]

//it can't help matters that there are a lot of (mainly Tory) backbench MPs who are publicly calling for the two metre guideline to be reduced to one metre. //

One metre is what the WHO recommends. It would certainly make life easier.

[Ellipsis]

> Err- 8 days if everyone turns up for their test.

Wrong. Do you see the problem now?

[jno]

from woofgang's link (to gov.uk):

You can get a throat and nose swab test

The singular word "test", not "throat and nose swab tests". I'm not at all sure people have misunderstood what's been said.

[fiction-factory]

//>Err- 8 days if everyone turns up for their test.

Wrong. Do you see the problem now? //

Why is it wrong? Did you read my answer?

[Ellipsis]

Yes, I did.

It's wrong because it seems that people have more than one test - i.e. one in the nose and one in the throat. Therefore 200,000 tests does not mean 200,000 people tested. Therefore you simply don't know how many days it will take - somewhere between 8 and 15, probably.

[fiction-factory]

The double counting issue for nose and throat tests is not true, although as I said earlier there are indeed more tests than people for the reasons I listed.
The answer is it would take forever because you'd need to keep retesting them every few days.
What testing capacity would be sufficient for our needs- what should the target capacity be?

[fiction-factory]

The BBC article here says " it's been suggested that the 800,000 people who work for the NHS should be tested about once a week."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51943612
I'm not sure how the difference between their 0.8m and your 1.5m figure is explained but I'll see what I can find