English Devolution

[davebro]

Why does England not have a devolved parliament/assembly like the other UK countries?

Why should we have Scots/Welsh/NI MPs sticking their oar into English business at Westminster whilst having extensive powers devolved to them regarding their own countries?

This is grossly unfair & needs to be addressed pdq. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

[davebro]

I don't mind if the Scots stay or go as long as they stop ranting on about independence. But if they stay I see no valid reason why England should be discriminated against in terms of it's governance.

[FatticusInch]

davebro
//I don't mind if the Scots stay or go as long as they stop ranting on about independence//

PMSL, you do realise that if they go they’ll ‘stop ranting about independence’?

[FatticusInch]

Ah, Tory Boy stalker has rocked up too with his usual contribution to the thread! Lol.

[davebro]

//you do realise that if they go they’ll ‘stop ranting about independence’?//

and if Indyref2 results in a "no" vote will they carry on as now?

[FatticusInch]

(Sigh)
Ok, we’ll go on the ‘if’ premise you’ve mentioned.
What if it’s Yes and they leave? You’ll be happy right, totally ecstatic, in line with your previous “good riddance”comments?

[ToraToraTora]

Devolution is a disaster, the last think we need is another layer of snouts in the trough.

[Old_Geezer]

I think the other regional governments were created to shut the continual complaining from those regions, whereas the English were quieter and capable on just letting things get on. The big question is not so much why England has no such regional government but why is the UK wasting money providing jobs for politicians, apparently not not enough to get elected to the national parliament, to spout off against the UK, still.

[ToraToraTora]

All devolution has done is feed the swivel eyed nationalists into doing their best to leave the UK.

[FatticusInch]

No doubt you’ll get BA, ToraToraTora.
One of the gang generally awards it to you, Davebro will be no different I’m sure…….once he’s worked out the question he’s been posed.

Is that why you no longer respond, you’ve got no credible comebacks?
How’s the avatar thing coming along? Looks like the turkey you voted for will be cooked and all Trussed up for Xmas! PMSL.

[FatticusInch]

ToraToraTora
//‘ I usually think "why is Fatti such a prat" ‘ - pity you can't give yourself BA but if you give it to this then it will be like you are giving it to yourself.//

ROFPMSL, never a truer word spoken, your words not mine!
Except for the first 3 words in your post, because like Davebro you clearly don’t. End of.

[Boto]

You can have the Welsh on for free, please take it!

[ZebuSanctuary]

// You could tell us what whisk'e'y has got to do with the question //

My answer was addressing the past mistakes made by Scotland back in the late 17th century.

Since you've spelt it with an 'e' (as found on any bottle label where it is produced in Ireland) then in this instance, your question is irrelevant to the matters that befell Scotland back in the late 1690s!

[FatticusInch]

You completely missed the point.

ZebuSanctuary
//This would not be a first time for the Scotch either.//

I was making reference to exactly who ‘the Scotch’ were, as you called them?
I’m reasoning that you meant the Scots?
I know of no other nationality named The Scotch, unless you do?

[ZebuSanctuary]

// I was making reference to exactly who ‘the Scotch’ were, as you called them? I’m reasoning that you meant the Scots? //

DEFINITIONS FOR SCOTCH
(used outside of Scotland) of Scottish origin; resembling or regarded as characteristic of Scotland or the Scottish people:
Scotch plaid.

This definition was provided courtesy of Dictionary.com

And your reasoning was correct.

[Togo]

I see that Drakeford has been tub thumping and rousing the permanently disaffected in Wales this week too. Who cares? Let the devolution process slide to the least advantageous outcome for everyone. Everyone in Wales Scotland and NI that is. You see davebro ... when the game ends and the short of comprehension think that they have "won", England will have independence and no dependants. The very process that is meant (by the home boy nationalists) to free them from English despotism, in Cardiff, Edinburgh and Dublin, by default give England the greatest gift of all. Our independence and a Parliament of our own to decide what is best for England. We have not had one, despite having the World's first, since the false act of union.

[FatticusInch]

From the very same Dictionary.com

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/scotch

WORDS OFTEN CONFUSED WITH SCOTCH

/The natives of Scotland refer to themselves as Scots or, in the singular, Scot, Scotsman, or Scotswoman. The related adjectives are Scottish or, less commonly, Scots. Scotch as a noun or adjective is objected to by the Scots except when used of whisky and in established phrases like Scotch egg and Scotch pine./

You were incorrect.

[douglas9401]

Scots Pine, just scotching rumours. :-)