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Its been 40 years since the '' Rivers of Blood '' speech.
I know he said it would happen ( RoB ) in 20 years, but do you think the Government at the time, should have listened to Enoch Powell, considering the increase in gun and knife crime we are experiencing now?
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It is not the question whether knives are carried by blacks or whites, Asians or Chinese. I believe the only way we can tackle this problem is to bring more severe and practical punishments. It does not make a difference whether it is a murder, child sex abuse, terrorism, rape or anything else.
What we are doing right now,
1 - Pedophile and child sex offenders - OK ban people taking photographs (Now you can not take photos in public, at school events etc) even it was in the news today that police arrested a man taking photos at a public place.
2 - Murders - Ok ban knives (How would we cook)
3 - Rape - Ok Ban women going out.
Why not just punish the pedophile, the murderer, the rapist and all these sort the way that people should think twice before doing that.
I believe 'Rivers of Blood' will happen, because over the last Decade, we have had uncontrolled Immigration, (legal and illegal). Too many, too fast.
We now have certain religious groups, (minority) calling for a takeover of this country.
There are now areas of this country where the residents say it no longer feels like Britain.
Overall, there's now a deep resentment of immigrants, especially those that have made no effort to learn the language.
We now have certain religious groups, (minority) calling for a takeover of this country.
There are now areas of this country where the residents say it no longer feels like Britain.
Overall, there's now a deep resentment of immigrants, especially those that have made no effort to learn the language.
i sometimes wonder if i'm the only one that really likes living in the UK - i enjoy the diversity, the people and whilst i don't think its perfect i still think its a great place to live and probably one of the best in the world.
so no i don't think the govt should have listened to EP - and i don't think anyone should worry too much about it now, it was over the top and bizarre at the time and its over the top and bizarre now.
so no i don't think the govt should have listened to EP - and i don't think anyone should worry too much about it now, it was over the top and bizarre at the time and its over the top and bizarre now.
The problem is that for the past 40 years we have been unable to talk about immigration without being labelled racist. If Enoch Powell had concentrated on just immigration we would not be in the current position. It was Enoch when in the Tory cabinet who encouraged West Indians to come to Britain by the boatload to work on our understaffed buses and manual hospital work. It escalated from there.
because over the last Decade, we have had uncontrolled Immigration, (legal and illegal). Too many, too fast.
See, that's more or less exactly what Powell was saying. And it's clear 40 years on that he was wrong. How do we know such claims are any more true today?
We now have certain religious groups, (minority) calling for a takeover of this country.
There are always minority crackpots calling for extreme measures. Take the Black Panthers or Nation of Islam, for instance.
Overall, there's now a deep resentment of immigrants,
Again, nothing new. Except that the specific immigrant ethnicity has changed. It's previously been Irish, or Jews or...
See, that's more or less exactly what Powell was saying. And it's clear 40 years on that he was wrong. How do we know such claims are any more true today?
We now have certain religious groups, (minority) calling for a takeover of this country.
There are always minority crackpots calling for extreme measures. Take the Black Panthers or Nation of Islam, for instance.
Overall, there's now a deep resentment of immigrants,
Again, nothing new. Except that the specific immigrant ethnicity has changed. It's previously been Irish, or Jews or...
Krom,
I notice its just my reply your taking to task, but its fact,, we live on an Island that the size of pimple on an Elephants backside, and there's a limit to how many immigrants this country can take, and thats well exceeded.
In around 2003/4, David Blunkett said there there is no Limit to the amount of immigrants this country can take.
In my mind, thats a ridiclous thing to say, and an open invitation to all and sundry to come here.
I notice its just my reply your taking to task, but its fact,, we live on an Island that the size of pimple on an Elephants backside, and there's a limit to how many immigrants this country can take, and thats well exceeded.
In around 2003/4, David Blunkett said there there is no Limit to the amount of immigrants this country can take.
In my mind, thats a ridiclous thing to say, and an open invitation to all and sundry to come here.
In Powell's speech, he references a constituent predicting that 'in 15 to 20 years the black man will have the whip hand over the white man'. This is totally incorrect even 40 years on. And that same prediction was being made years before 1968. And was still wrong.
How do we know that the most recent claims are any less dubious? There's no direct evidence whatsoever that immigrants commit crimes (and individual cases don't count, by the way - I mean real evidence documenting trends among people who come into the country).
How do we know that the most recent claims are any less dubious? There's no direct evidence whatsoever that immigrants commit crimes (and individual cases don't count, by the way - I mean real evidence documenting trends among people who come into the country).
