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Did you see Question Time?
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On Question time last night one of the guests was Welsh Secretary Peter Hain MP
Other guests included shadow environment secretary Nick Herbert MP, former Metropolitan Police commissioner Sir Ian Blair, former MEP and broadcaster Robert Kilroy-Silk and the comedian Natalie Haynes.
I was somewhat surprised to see Peter Hain, since he had said he would never be on the panel again because Nick Griffin had been invited onto it a couple of weeks ago.
So I was expecting the audience to attack Peter Hain over this, but no mention from what what we have come to expect, a mainly Left Wing audience.
It took David Dimbleby in the last minutes of the show to mention to Haynes what he had said. But true to form Haynes denied the fact, and then attacked Dimbleby saying "I condemn you and the BBC, for having Griffin on the show.
And they have the nerve to call this country a democracy, what as it come to when some can demand another cannot appear on a debating show such as Question time, because that persons views conflict with their own.
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Other guests included shadow environment secretary Nick Herbert MP, former Metropolitan Police commissioner Sir Ian Blair, former MEP and broadcaster Robert Kilroy-Silk and the comedian Natalie Haynes.
I was somewhat surprised to see Peter Hain, since he had said he would never be on the panel again because Nick Griffin had been invited onto it a couple of weeks ago.
So I was expecting the audience to attack Peter Hain over this, but no mention from what what we have come to expect, a mainly Left Wing audience.
It took David Dimbleby in the last minutes of the show to mention to Haynes what he had said. But true to form Haynes denied the fact, and then attacked Dimbleby saying "I condemn you and the BBC, for having Griffin on the show.
And they have the nerve to call this country a democracy, what as it come to when some can demand another cannot appear on a debating show such as Question time, because that persons views conflict with their own.
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This comment made by a Question Time viewer, and entered on the shows comments, is interesting.
Sir Ian Blairs reply to immigration policy “If you want to live in a multicultural modern society then come to Britain” no other countries have the choice whether to come here and “enjoy” the multicultural modern society of Britain or to stay in their own country and enjoy their own culture. British people don’t have that same choice they can’t stay and enjoy their own culture because it has been replaced behind our backs by this “multicultural culture” which is a breach of our human rights.
Kilroy-Silk was the only one who dared to speak the truth, but once again was shouted down, before he could get his point over.
Sir Ian Blairs reply to immigration policy “If you want to live in a multicultural modern society then come to Britain” no other countries have the choice whether to come here and “enjoy” the multicultural modern society of Britain or to stay in their own country and enjoy their own culture. British people don’t have that same choice they can’t stay and enjoy their own culture because it has been replaced behind our backs by this “multicultural culture” which is a breach of our human rights.
Kilroy-Silk was the only one who dared to speak the truth, but once again was shouted down, before he could get his point over.
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It saddens me, AOG, that you think British culture is so weak and inspid that it withers if it come into contact with other cultures.
As a multicultural country, the better elements of foreign cultures will gain popularity, the poorer elements of British culture will be overshadowed. If there's still a demand for them, they'll stick around.
It's a constant process of evolution. Personally, I think British culture is pretty hardy and robust.
What you might find is that certain parts of our culture that you like become less prevalent, and parts of other cultures that you dislike will become more popular. It's childish and self-obsessed to get in huff just because they don't exactly mirror you own likes and dislikes. Try growing up maybe? This part and parcel of being member of a society.
As a multicultural country, the better elements of foreign cultures will gain popularity, the poorer elements of British culture will be overshadowed. If there's still a demand for them, they'll stick around.
It's a constant process of evolution. Personally, I think British culture is pretty hardy and robust.
What you might find is that certain parts of our culture that you like become less prevalent, and parts of other cultures that you dislike will become more popular. It's childish and self-obsessed to get in huff just because they don't exactly mirror you own likes and dislikes. Try growing up maybe? This part and parcel of being member of a society.
//since he had said he would never be on the panel again because Nick Griffin had been invited onto it a couple of weeks ago. //
It pains me to defend the odious Hain, but he never actually said that. What he did say was:
"Mr Hain, a regular panellist on the weekly question-and-answer programme, last night urged other Cabinet ministers to follow his lead and decline to appear alongside BNP members"
//from what we have come to expect, a mainly Left Wing audience. //
When you yourself AOG are so far right wing, the vast majority of people and their views will be to the left of yours.
It pains me to defend the odious Hain, but he never actually said that. What he did say was:
"Mr Hain, a regular panellist on the weekly question-and-answer programme, last night urged other Cabinet ministers to follow his lead and decline to appear alongside BNP members"
//from what we have come to expect, a mainly Left Wing audience. //
When you yourself AOG are so far right wing, the vast majority of people and their views will be to the left of yours.
Quinlad
/// It's a constant process of evolution. Personally, I think British culture is pretty hardy and robust.///
You are among the minority of this country to think this, just examine public opinion, why do you think people are turning to minority parties, because we have no other voice in this country.
No voice in this country becoming a multi ethnic country, no voice in mass immigration and now no voice in how much power Europe has over us,
/// It's childish and self-obsessed to get in huff just because they don't exactly mirror you own likes and dislikes. Try growing up maybe? This part and parcel of being member of a society.////
Once again turn to petty insults if someone dares to speak out. These are not only my own likes and dislikes there are many more than you think, or you wish to admit.
Don't dare to call me childish, when I have the knowledge and experience gathered over many more years than your few, to know what this country once was like.
We don't want people such as you to tell us that what this country has become is something to glorify over, it is a dump and if I was young enough I would leave, and let it continue to fester by you and others that have turned it into what it now is.
/// It's a constant process of evolution. Personally, I think British culture is pretty hardy and robust.///
You are among the minority of this country to think this, just examine public opinion, why do you think people are turning to minority parties, because we have no other voice in this country.
No voice in this country becoming a multi ethnic country, no voice in mass immigration and now no voice in how much power Europe has over us,
/// It's childish and self-obsessed to get in huff just because they don't exactly mirror you own likes and dislikes. Try growing up maybe? This part and parcel of being member of a society.////
Once again turn to petty insults if someone dares to speak out. These are not only my own likes and dislikes there are many more than you think, or you wish to admit.
Don't dare to call me childish, when I have the knowledge and experience gathered over many more years than your few, to know what this country once was like.
We don't want people such as you to tell us that what this country has become is something to glorify over, it is a dump and if I was young enough I would leave, and let it continue to fester by you and others that have turned it into what it now is.
If you think British culture is so pathetically in danger of being wiped out, why are you so keen for it to live on? Don't we want a culture that has some balls?
It's a shame you want to up and leave the country. With that kind of defeatist attitude, it's a good thing you feigned injury to avoid military service. For someone who claims to be so patriotic, you have a p*iss poor view of your country.
Me, I like it here. I think Britain and British culture and British values are great.
It's a shame you want to up and leave the country. With that kind of defeatist attitude, it's a good thing you feigned injury to avoid military service. For someone who claims to be so patriotic, you have a p*iss poor view of your country.
Me, I like it here. I think Britain and British culture and British values are great.
Ankou
Some people are obviously of the opinion that something they used to do has now been replaced by some foreign influences. I have no idea what they cannot do any longer.
It might be that they are not allowed to be rude to other people and disrespectful of their beliefs and feelings.
I like to think of that as progress, but if your day is enhanced by calling blacks lazy, gays as freaks, muslims as evil or women as just plain inferior, then I suppose you would be feeling a bit miffed about our present society.
Some people are obviously of the opinion that something they used to do has now been replaced by some foreign influences. I have no idea what they cannot do any longer.
It might be that they are not allowed to be rude to other people and disrespectful of their beliefs and feelings.
I like to think of that as progress, but if your day is enhanced by calling blacks lazy, gays as freaks, muslims as evil or women as just plain inferior, then I suppose you would be feeling a bit miffed about our present society.
well thank heavens for that, i thought it was growing muffin chops, drinking real ale and then off to the green for a bit of morris dancing. which isn't banned....... but perhaps should be (the morris dancing anyhow).
i was thinkning it mihgt be drinking, raping and pillaging like our anglo saxon danish barbarian viking heritage. which is still acceptable.
i was thinkning it mihgt be drinking, raping and pillaging like our anglo saxon danish barbarian viking heritage. which is still acceptable.
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AOG
//why do you think people are turning to minority parties, because we have no other voice in this country. //
It would be wrong to base your estimate of people voting for minority parties based on a very low turnout in the Euro Elections taken during the MPs expenses scandal.
At the next election, the share of the vote for the minority parties will hardly change from its current very low.
I would just like to remind you that Griffin got less votes in his constituency than they polled at the previous vote, despite him being a high profile candidate.
//why do you think people are turning to minority parties, because we have no other voice in this country. //
It would be wrong to base your estimate of people voting for minority parties based on a very low turnout in the Euro Elections taken during the MPs expenses scandal.
At the next election, the share of the vote for the minority parties will hardly change from its current very low.
I would just like to remind you that Griffin got less votes in his constituency than they polled at the previous vote, despite him being a high profile candidate.
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Quinlad
/// it's a good thing you feigned injury to avoid military service.///
FROM WHERE IN YOUR SWAMP OF A BRAIN DID YOU COME UP WITH THIS DAMN RIGHT PATHETIC LIE?
FOR THE RECORD I SERVED MY MILITARY SERVICE IN THE ROYAL AIR FORCE.
And in which branch of the service did you serve? The "Cub Scouts" doesn't count.
/// it's a good thing you feigned injury to avoid military service.///
FROM WHERE IN YOUR SWAMP OF A BRAIN DID YOU COME UP WITH THIS DAMN RIGHT PATHETIC LIE?
FOR THE RECORD I SERVED MY MILITARY SERVICE IN THE ROYAL AIR FORCE.
And in which branch of the service did you serve? The "Cub Scouts" doesn't count.
Gromit
/// I have no idea what they cannot do any longer. ///
They cannot walk down some areas of the city that they once did.
Some cannot send their children to a school where English is the first language.
The infrastructure of their country was not at bursting point.
/// It might be that they are not allowed to be rude to other people and disrespectful of their beliefs and feelings.////
The indigenous peoples of this country could once be rude to a person and that person could be rude back if they so wished, it was called free speech.
They could also be disrespectful to some's beliefs and feelings, it didn't matter they were not in this country to hear and so be offended.
People wore similar clothing to everyone else, and the only person to wear a garment that only showed their eyes, was a person up to no good.
Are yes they were the days, it was called freedom.
/// I have no idea what they cannot do any longer. ///
They cannot walk down some areas of the city that they once did.
Some cannot send their children to a school where English is the first language.
The infrastructure of their country was not at bursting point.
/// It might be that they are not allowed to be rude to other people and disrespectful of their beliefs and feelings.////
The indigenous peoples of this country could once be rude to a person and that person could be rude back if they so wished, it was called free speech.
They could also be disrespectful to some's beliefs and feelings, it didn't matter they were not in this country to hear and so be offended.
People wore similar clothing to everyone else, and the only person to wear a garment that only showed their eyes, was a person up to no good.
Are yes they were the days, it was called freedom.
"Are yes they were the days, it was called freedom. "
What days, exactly, are you referring to? I thought in the following thread we'd quite clearly established that the 'good old days' varied hugely from person to person...
http://www.theanswerb...s/Question503257.html
Also, speaking just for myself, I'm quite regularly rude/offensive to my friends - and they back to me for fun. Seriously, we cover just about every kind of offensive you can imagine. Offensive humour is alive and well, trust me. Intolerance, however, appears to be declining (outside of your neck of the woods, anyway).
What days, exactly, are you referring to? I thought in the following thread we'd quite clearly established that the 'good old days' varied hugely from person to person...
http://www.theanswerb...s/Question503257.html
Also, speaking just for myself, I'm quite regularly rude/offensive to my friends - and they back to me for fun. Seriously, we cover just about every kind of offensive you can imagine. Offensive humour is alive and well, trust me. Intolerance, however, appears to be declining (outside of your neck of the woods, anyway).
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