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Syrians now taken to the streets... what next?
Do we go in there too?
also rioting in Cairo,
I think the Arab situation is getting out of control and we should be seen to step away from it and let the Arab League deal with their own.
How would we like if we were sick and tired of the way our countryis being run and the AL took it upon themselves to police us?
also rioting in Cairo,
I think the Arab situation is getting out of control and we should be seen to step away from it and let the Arab League deal with their own.
How would we like if we were sick and tired of the way our countryis being run and the AL took it upon themselves to police us?
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Bobbi >>the last part of my Qs was hypothetical, we are a democracy so it would never happen<<
It has happened before so you know
The Peterloo Massacre (or Battle of Peterloo) occurred at St Peter's Field, Manchester, England, on 16 August 1819, when cavalry charged into a crowd of 60,000–80,000 gathered at a meeting to demand the reform of parliamentary representation.
The end of the Napoleonic Wars in 1815 had resulted in periods of famine and chronic unemployment, exacerbated by the introduction of the first of the Corn Laws. By the beginning of 1819 the pressure generated by poor economic conditions, coupled with the lack of suffrage in northern England, had enhanced the appeal of political radicalism. In response, the Manchester Patriotic Union, a group agitating for parliamentary reform, organised a demonstration to be addressed by the well-known radical orator Henry Hunt.
Shortly after the meeting began, local magistrates called on the military authorities to arrest Hunt and several others on the hustings with him, and to disperse the crowd. Cavalry charged into the crowd with sabres drawn, and in the ensuing confusion, 15 people were killed and 400–700 were injured. The massacre was given the name Peterloo in ironic comparison to the Battle of Waterloo, which had taken place four years earlier.The Peterloo Massacre (or Battle of Peterloo) occurred at St Peter's Field, Manchester, England, on 16 August 1819, when cavalry charged into a crowd of 60,000–80,000 gathered at a meeting to demand the reform of parliamentary representation.
It has happened before so you know
The Peterloo Massacre (or Battle of Peterloo) occurred at St Peter's Field, Manchester, England, on 16 August 1819, when cavalry charged into a crowd of 60,000–80,000 gathered at a meeting to demand the reform of parliamentary representation.
The end of the Napoleonic Wars in 1815 had resulted in periods of famine and chronic unemployment, exacerbated by the introduction of the first of the Corn Laws. By the beginning of 1819 the pressure generated by poor economic conditions, coupled with the lack of suffrage in northern England, had enhanced the appeal of political radicalism. In response, the Manchester Patriotic Union, a group agitating for parliamentary reform, organised a demonstration to be addressed by the well-known radical orator Henry Hunt.
Shortly after the meeting began, local magistrates called on the military authorities to arrest Hunt and several others on the hustings with him, and to disperse the crowd. Cavalry charged into the crowd with sabres drawn, and in the ensuing confusion, 15 people were killed and 400–700 were injured. The massacre was given the name Peterloo in ironic comparison to the Battle of Waterloo, which had taken place four years earlier.The Peterloo Massacre (or Battle of Peterloo) occurred at St Peter's Field, Manchester, England, on 16 August 1819, when cavalry charged into a crowd of 60,000–80,000 gathered at a meeting to demand the reform of parliamentary representation.
Twenty years ago, the same contagen for freedom and democracy swept across Eastern Europe and saw the domino effect of the fall of communism in that area.
Except we didn't dare to impose a no-fly zone in Poland and Hungary and East Germany to hurry things along because Russia was mightier than the flimflam in Libyan.
What next?
Fudge. We support half the despots (the ones with the most oil who will do deals) and we are again some other exactly the same despots in Syria and Libyan.
I predict we will squander the chance of opening up the middle east like Eastern Europe was opened up twenty dears ago, by our disingeuousness and greed. We will meddle and be inconsistant, and we will gravely regret not siezing this opportunity for a long time.
Except we didn't dare to impose a no-fly zone in Poland and Hungary and East Germany to hurry things along because Russia was mightier than the flimflam in Libyan.
What next?
Fudge. We support half the despots (the ones with the most oil who will do deals) and we are again some other exactly the same despots in Syria and Libyan.
I predict we will squander the chance of opening up the middle east like Eastern Europe was opened up twenty dears ago, by our disingeuousness and greed. We will meddle and be inconsistant, and we will gravely regret not siezing this opportunity for a long time.
DeadEndStreet of cause we will never know but can only hope in a democracy that this doesn't happen here (again)
Somehow I cannot not see David Milliband and for instance , Peter Tatchell as well as David Cameron, armed to the teeth with Karashnikov rifles, can you? and worse still, opening fire on people who are against them, but just imagine there was civil unrest here, would we want to be policed by the Arab Nations, in my opinion, we would not, I guess what I am trying to get across is, let the Arab league deal with various dictators and despots in the region, yes they agreed for a NFZ and asked for help from the UN but up till now Qatar is the only Arab state to be seen doing this
Somehow I cannot not see David Milliband and for instance , Peter Tatchell as well as David Cameron, armed to the teeth with Karashnikov rifles, can you? and worse still, opening fire on people who are against them, but just imagine there was civil unrest here, would we want to be policed by the Arab Nations, in my opinion, we would not, I guess what I am trying to get across is, let the Arab league deal with various dictators and despots in the region, yes they agreed for a NFZ and asked for help from the UN but up till now Qatar is the only Arab state to be seen doing this
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Some of the injured had limbs missing
On the 16th of August 1819 the huge open area around what's now St Peters Square, Manchester, played host to an outrage against over 60,000 peaceful pro-democracy and anti-poverty protesters; an event which became known as The Peterloo Massacre.
An estimated 18 people, including a woman and a child, died from saber cuts and trampling. Over 700 men, women and children received extremely serious injuries. All in the name of liberty and freedom from poverty.
On the 16th of August 1819 the huge open area around what's now St Peters Square, Manchester, played host to an outrage against over 60,000 peaceful pro-democracy and anti-poverty protesters; an event which became known as The Peterloo Massacre.
An estimated 18 people, including a woman and a child, died from saber cuts and trampling. Over 700 men, women and children received extremely serious injuries. All in the name of liberty and freedom from poverty.
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