Why must we allow these trespassers?

[Red_John]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/...-isle-of-man-12910356
Why do beardy wierdies have a right to walk through peoples back gardens? I sympathise with Clarkson and also Madonna who has had similar problems.

[MoonshinePete]

If any of you had bought this land you would have had to obey the government inquiry not clarkson

>>His decision to prevent access on part of the path along the Langness peninsula in 2005 provoked immediate opposition from pressure group Public Rights Of Way Langness (Prowl) and an inquiry was ordered.

Prowl argued that walkers had followed the route for generations and it met legal requirements that it was used by the public without interruption for at least 21 years<<.

[ChuckFickens]

earlier I bought some nice walking boots and a little rucksack and went off to the Isle of Man, I walked for about 5 miles, stopped and sat on a stone wall by a lighthouse and had a flask of coffee. Then, I walked another 10 miles and stopped for a sandwich and then I............. Oppps, please do excuse me, I'm rambling

[jackthehat]

Prowl do NOT have the backing of most of the Manx people.
He didn't 'prevent' access at all...........he only adjusted it......slightly.

And I think most of could reasonably have expected to be able to do the same....

[jackthehat]

*must of us...

[jackthehat]

:o(

*most of us

[MoonshinePete]

Have you any proof that Prowl do NOT have the backing of most of the Manx people.

Prowl only started up after clarkson closed the path off to walkers.

[jackthehat]

Only the local news reports........
Like I said, prowl are a small but vocal one-issue (this issue) group. Most Manxers can see what Clarkson is trying to do and are broadly in favour. He's not trying to stop anyone going anywhere, he's just asking them to alter their route..........a little.
They can hardly claim the title of Ramblers if they are dissuaded and defeated by a 100 yard detour...........

[MoonshinePete]

(1) On the 10th. December 2004 mr. and Mrs Clarkson were advised by the solicitors conducting the searches, under the heading Dept of Transport with regard to Highways " It is clear that the public have rights of ramblage over Langness ( including the open portion of the property you propose to purchase). This is clear evidence that the DOT was warning that disputes could occur if the public's rights or perception of rights were removed. Despite this Mr. and Mrs. Clarkson proceeded with the purchase, closed off part of the open portion of the property and then claimed no prior knowledge of such rights.
(2) On 10th June 1976 the then Attorney General wrote to the Northern Lights board stating that " the public are ENTITLED to walk along the lighthouse road and walk and ramble on the land of Langness". This was at the end of the dispute about vehicle access to Langness

[jackthehat]

He has not sought to deprive the Ramblers of any of that............only implement a small diversion.

[whiskeryron]

I think that MoonshinePete's last post answers this question adequately.Ron.

[MoonshinePete]

All came out in the government inquiry.

[homedeeth]

Red John
i like walking and i don't have a beard. Nor am i weird. However, i would be more than happy to walk through your house and trample mud into the carpet.

[jackthehat]

Except that it hasn't.............yet..........

[MoonshinePete]

You may have missed it in the local news

http://www.inthenews....roperty-$21377273.htm

[jackthehat]

Yes..........that was May last year..............it is still to be resolved.

[anotheoldgit]

Right of way or no right of way, we are territorial animals and nothing is going to change that.

He has every right to defend his own particular piece of land from invaders, just as we every right to object to peoples of other lands, invading our own particular piece of the world.

[MoonshinePete]

>>In a joint statement, three members of the Isle of Man parliament said they believed the result was "a victory for common sense and people power."<<

[jackthehat]

'We have around 40 acres of coastland which we bought without rights of way on it. We allow people to walk around it,' she said.

'Where we blocked it off was so they could not walk right by our house - and that's where they have pulled down the fence.

'Another part of what they have damaged is what stops you falling into the sea. They are mindless bloody idiots

'Someone has decided to take the law into their own hands while we are still appealing against the inquiry.' - Francine Clarkson

[andy-hughes]

Wow - bringing imigration into a thread about a right of way takes some leap of the immagination - but it must be done ...

[ChuckFickens]

">>In a joint statement, three members of the Isle of Man parliament said they believed the result was "a victory for common sense and people power."<< "

Wow.... not a whole 3 people!!!

So 32 members don't think it's a victory for common sense and people power.