Another teacher sacked for daring to lay a finger on a child

[dave50]

The teacher was sacked because he physically restrained him by grabbing his arms and left some marks! Oh dear, must be assault then! How pathetic. Oh yes he was a 15 year old boy with 'special needs'. What does that mean? I will translate, it means a naughty child, simple as that, same as attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD). Another label to excuse bad behavior.

[DTCwordfan]

My fingers don't always work in function with my brain either......and then the occasional key sticks, or double taps with another.

[DTCwordfan]

Now - now you two or I'll get ttfn or mamya to physically separate you

[Answerprancer]

...in your *humble* opinion ?

[Answerprancer]

But it's him, it's HIM !!!

[Answerprancer]

Oh for the love of jeebuz ! What's that got to do with it?
That's 'health and safety' - and believe it or not, I agree with you on that one.

[Barmaid]

Doc, I think we all know that there are naughty children and there are SEN children and there are naughty SEN children. It does not follow that children with SEN are naughty!

B00 makes a fair point. The difficulty is, the DM report does not detail whether this child's SE needs were behavioural or whether he was just downright naughty. (Of course, we all know that children without SE needs are NEVER naughty).

The schools I have worked with have excellent policies in place to help ensure that ALL children in their care get the best education. Inclusion is better for society as a whole - the alternative is the Victorian institution which is a very unpalatable thought. There is actually very little evidence to show that non SEN children have their education damaged by inclusion of SEN children - indeed, DT's link would seem to support the opposite. Apart from anything else, SEN has a huge range. It can go from School Action to School Action Plus to a full statement of Special Education Needs. School action or SAP may only mean extra tuition or one to one support for x hours per week in certain subjects. A full statement is likely to relate to children with more profound difficulties. Very often they have some lessons in a group as a whole and some in smaller groups away from the main classgroup.

We do not have access to the statements in this case (and bear in mind it IS the DM) to know the full story. However, if his dismissal was in any way unfair, I have no doubt that the tribunal will find it so and he will either receive a decent sized payout or reinstatement.

[Answerprancer]

It didn't teach you that 'today' doesn't have a hyphen though did it ;-)

[tamborine]

My son was dyslexic and went to a special needs school. There are children who dont flourish in a standard class as it makes them feel inadequate; which can transmit to a child's frustration. My son was a bully, which he has only just admitted to. It transpires he's hearing faulty.

[Answerprancer]

Where's that northern sense of humour of yours ? No I don't get my 'jollies' by criticising peoples grammatical discrepancies, not usually anyway.

[joeluke]

Markrae does though

[Barmaid]

My step son is in a special facility attached to the main school. It's fantastic for him and his education has flourished since this provision was made. Don't get me wrong, I do not think inclusion is necessarily right for ALL children with these needs but for many it works and it works well.

I do, however, strongly disagree that ALL children with SEN should be in a special school.

And as for corporal punishment I can see no excuse or justification for it. Discipline starts at home. If naughty children were given better boundaries at home and the parents supported the school's discipline policies, the schools and the teachers would have less of a problem.

[Answerprancer]

Indeed, and I wouldn't want to appear to be trying to steal his crown.

[Mamyalynne]

Did someone call?

The term SEN is an umbrella term and I am in no way going to attempt to guess, what the young man in the article has problems with.

My Grandson is autistic and there were hard times in the early days of his diagnosis, he is in mainstream school as he is high functioning and is a very bright (3 years ahead in reading alone) very popular boy and has so much to offer to the class. He still has his moments and if he does something naughty he is told so, I think there have been some very uneducated remarks made on this thread but equally many that understand the difficulties involved and generalisation is of no use in this debate.