The 'N' word rears it's ugly head again.

[sp1814]

http://www.dailymail....led-N-word-times.html

There are those who (misguidedly) believe that all black people are fine with being referred to as 'n*gger' - even those black people who are culturally a million miles away from the streets of New York or Los Angeles.

There are some very stupid people who believe that the use of the 'N' word is prevalent amongst black Britons (it isn't). It would appear that this person was drunk - but is that any excuse?

Ben Douglas has behaved admirably under the circumstances (would the offender have used the same language at a bus stop in Peckham?) But Mr Douglas have named him in the story, or is it better for the name to be revealed on the notoriously gossipy fashion grapevine?

[China Doll]

It will get revealed obviously. I don't think it should be since he's said he doesn't want to name him and to allow it to be found out or leaked would seem petty. Ignorance is not quite the same as racism and whoever this fella was made a gross error of judgement and is clearly a very ignornat person, whether he's racist I'm not sure.

I would absolutely love for the person in question to come and shouth *** out in the middle of catford or peckham though, that would be a fun thing to watch ;0)

[Mick-Talbot]

Black people should stay well away from Germany . It is like the UK in the 70's here, The 'N' word is alive and kicking and used very frequently.

Why hasn't he named and shamed him? pointless harping on about it otherwise.

[naartje]

Idiots and free Champagne - bad combination

[jno]

I imagine Douglas's point was that racism isn't confined to BNP territory, it's alive and well in what you might think of as more cosmopolitan sectors of society. By not naming the guy he's suggesting he could be one of many; maybe that's true, I don't know. As for whether the guy is a racist - if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck.

[sp1814]

jno

I've been thinking about this, and I honestly have my doubts as to whether the person in question actually IS a geniune racist.

From the words he used, I believe he was trying to be 'street' - and 'cool' and he failed miserably.

Perhaps he'd just watched an episode of 'The Wire' or had been listening to a 50 Cent CD in the limo to the party - that, combined with alcohol (and whatever other substances a friend of Kate Moss and Lily Allen may be consuming) could have led to a temporary 'brain malfunction'.

[jno]

I'm not sure, sp1814 - my feeling is that liquor can make you do things you wouldn't normally do, like driving cars too fast or swimming naked in the Serpentine, but it doesn't make you think things you wouldn't normally think. Whatever words he used, this is a guy who's noticed that a black man is with a white woman and felt this is worthy of attention.

[sp1814]

jno

Point taken.

Also, whoever it was, made the situation a whole lot worse by repeating the word as if to explain why Mr Douglas shouldn't be offended by it.

Quite astonishing.

[Mick-Talbot]

Why did he feee the need to mention Kate Moss?
is she guilty by association?


I agree with his friends......... move on.

[anotheoldgit]

Yes very insulting and offensive to Ben Douglas, and words such as these should not be in use in the 21st century.

But as regards being a news story I have my doubts, and if such a long story concerning an old person being insulted for example, the anti 'Daily Wail' brigade would be the first to criticise the paper for printing such a non-story as they often call them.

Not that I do not sympathise with Ben Douglas on such an occasion, but most people be them black, white or any other skin colour are deeply insulted, by idiots that know no difference. at some time or other, but their stories never reach the pages of the national press.

[Mick-Talbot]

But as regards being a news story I have my doubts


pmsl.

[rockyracoon]

I think Ben Douglas behaved very well under the circumstance, I doubt my black friends would have dealt with it as well and neither would a few that are white, the fact that nobody around the table defended Ben also speaks volumes about them. I think I tend to agree with jno, 'inebriety reveals what sobriety conceals', so unless the man in question is a complete T%@T then I would say there is underlining racism. The only problem with not revealing the name of the man is that gossip mongering starts and innocent people get accused, and being thought of as a racist tends not to be good for ones career.

[anotheoldgit]

Mick-Talbot

PMSL

Urban Dictionary's definition:

/// Possibly the worst and most unrealistic of internet jargon.///

Hope you have now changed your nappy?

[Mick-Talbot]

Having read many of your threads, AOG...... I really can not comprehend why you can say

'But as regards being a news story I have my doubts '


your double standards know no bounds.

[Mick-Talbot]

http://www.theanswerb.../Question1019560.html


Be honest, AOG the above thread belonged in chatterbank. You post in news because it makes you feel superior and intelligent..
The vast majority of posters on this site, know that not to be the case, you are a one trick pony.


And I really do rotflmfao when you pop into chatterbank at Christmas, to wish us lesser mortals 'merry Christmas'

[anotheoldgit]

I must beg to differ Mick, all my threads are bona fide news stories, backed up by existing news links.

They may not be news stories that suit your own particular agenda, but they are news stories never the less.

[jackthehat]

I must have missed the memo which explained that we had to submit all posts to AOG for scrutiny prior to them being placed in the News section....

[Safiya]

I agree with Mick-Talbots double standards comment.

I would have named the man. From the way I read the story it seemed he took great delight in calling him an offensive name.

[sp1814]

Mick-Talbot

Reading between the lines of the story - I think the 'Kate Moss/Lily Allen' angle increases the newsworthy element of the story - who knows.

However, telling someone who has been publicly insulted to 'move on' perhaps isn't the best advice.

Say if you were at a party, and someone referred to your wife/girlfriend as 'that old c***' over there, would you keep silent, and not refer to it ever again? Would you keep the insult secret for him?

[Mick-Talbot]

sp

'I should have have punched him on the nose'


I think he should have punched him in the nose, but he didn't, I think he should have named the offender, he hasn't.
he should put up or shut up.

If someone said that about my wife, yes i would ask him to step outside

[237SJ]

Ben Douglas - <<<I am furious for letting him get away with it>>>
So why did he then? Now`s his chance to name and shame but he chooses to "Let him get away with it" a second time.